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1 hour ago, PASTA Mick said:

Georgia, Macedonia...and our record in Lithuania isn't great! 

Pretty sure we've not taken 6 points off the bottom 2 seeds in a group since France 98 and if we had done in every campaign we'd have qualified a few times and reached the play-offs a couple times more too. 

We've only managed it in the 2002 World Cup qualifiers since Euro 96. For France '98, we drew with Estonia in Monaco after they didn't turn up in Tallinn.

Failing to win all our games against the bottom two seeds has cost us a play-off place in five of the last seven qualifying campaigns (WC 2006, WC 2010, WC 2014, Euro 2016, WC 2018) and automatic qualification in another (Euro 2008). WC 1998 we qualified anyway; Euro 2000 and Euro 2004 we would've still only made the play-offs. The remaining one, Euro 2012, we would've missed out on head-to-head.

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33 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said:

We've only managed it in the 2002 World Cup qualifiers since Euro 96. For France '98, we drew with Estonia in Monaco after they didn't turn up in Tallinn.

Failing to win all our games against the bottom two seeds has cost us a play-off place in five of the last seven qualifying campaigns (WC 2006, WC 2010, WC 2014, Euro 2016, WC 2018) and automatic qualification in another (Euro 2008). WC 1998 we qualified anyway; Euro 2000 and Euro 2004 we would've still only made the play-offs. The remaining one, Euro 2012, we would've missed out on head-to-head.

Correction: we would've won our Euro 2004 group.

So, we would've qualified automatically twice, reached the play-offs six times and missed out completely twice since France '98 had we beaten the bottom two seeds. How things could've been different...

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