ErsatzThistle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 1:46 AM, DoonTheSlope said: It’s 2018 FFS! What’s his nationality got to do with anything? Davey Provan is Scottish yet his negativity is beyond the pale The story I've heard is that Provan never mixed well with his teammates when away with Scotland and Jock Stein thought Provan's attitude and commitment were rotten. In the end, Stein got fed up and just stopped picking him. Right decision Big Jock I remember about ten or twelve years ago Provan had a column the Daily Record where he was supposed to write about football but half of it was taken up with the twisted, bitter poorly informed ramblings of a ultra-right wing fruitcake. Frequently ranting on about bringing back the belt in schools, re-introducing national service, that most unemployed people are lazy layabouts, the Scottish Parliament is a "waste of time" that should be abolished, that he'd "celebrate" if hanging was brought back. oh, and naturally he was paying "far too much" in taxes David Provan is a nasty, horrible old kunt who should be reduced to making a living giving after dinner speeches at branches of his beloved Conservative Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 I cant believe how much this guy is loving commentating on this game after Thursday.... And the english guy in the studio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonehutch Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I am sick of the crocker and provan being so negative. They revel in it and love reminding us of failures. Why do we put up with it? The English wouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, thelonehutch said: I am sick of the crocker and provan being so negative. They revel in it and love reminding us of failures. Why do we put up with it? The English wouldn't The English have pride, Scotland does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonehutch Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: The English have pride, Scotland does not. True bud. Years of being told we're too poor, too wee and too stupid have taken a toll. It needs to change, we need to start believing in ourselves as a nation again. It's hard when your getting pumped off Kazakhstan tho 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 11/25/2018 at 6:05 PM, Chripper said: Yeah, I noted that, too. Credit to him for that. I've never really had a problem the guy. He seems like a decent enough man and he clearly knows his stuff, nor does he really take himself too serious. There's a lot worse commentators than Crocker. He commentates on pretty much every Scotland match so he probably has a wee bit of affection towards us, whether he knows it or not. I've heard him many times shout "yes" when Scotland have scored a big goal. Maybe it's forced but he's been doing Scottish football now since late 90s so even though he's English I'm sure deep down he has a decent amount of affection and wants Scotland to qualify for a tournament as much as anyone else does. Don't see the big issue really. Everyone knows things are s*** and have been for some time so if lead commentators and reporters are pointing this out to McLeish and SFA and making them squirm all the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 hours ago, jamboman said: I cant believe how much this guy is loving commentating on this game after Thursday.... And the english guy in the studio Did Hayley McQueen not do the game today (was in pub watching Wales and left at full time). She was presenter on Thursday so you get two hours of eyeing up her midrift as consolation at least. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: I've heard him many times shout "yes" when Scotland have scored a big goal. Maybe it's forced but he's been doing Scottish football now since late 90s so even though he's English I'm sure deep down he has a decent amount of affection and wants Scotland to qualify for a tournament as much as anyone else does. Don't see the big issue really. Everyone knows things are s*** and have been for some time so if lead commentators and reporters are pointing this out to McLeish and SFA and making them squirm all the better. I think so. I quite like him. He doesn't take himself too seriously, he's not pompous and he isn't boring. He's fine. The people taking issue with him have to focus their ire on the players, the manager, the SFA, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Provan loves it when we lose. He dreams of a GB team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Provan just seems to be that dour co-commentator and plays up to it. Have to say after reading the above I will certainly be searching for some of his Daily Record old columns! Worst one on there used to be Charlie Nicholas, now there was a bitter old player with little good to say about the NT/Anthem etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, thelonehutch said: I am sick of the crocker and provan being so negative. They revel in it and love reminding us of failures. Why do we put up with it? The English wouldn't Ive said it before but we are a nation of shitebags and generally accept any old shit. That said, Provan is a complete wank of a man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: Provan just seems to be that dour co-commentator and plays up to it. Have to say after reading the above I will certainly be searching for some of his Daily Record old columns! Worst one on there used to be Charlie Nicholas, now there was a bitter old player with little good to say about the NT/Anthem etc. They were incredible ! He was supposed tow write about football but they ended up usually going off on the political and social rants of Alf MacGarnet ! Provan and Murdo MacLeod still make the occasional after dinner speech at constituency Conservative Party events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 tag team of Archie Mcpherson and Andy Walker is my dream team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: They were incredible ! He was supposed tow write about football but they ended up usually going off on the political and social rants of Alf MacGarnet ! Provan and Murdo MacLeod still make the occasional after dinner speech at constituency Conservative Party events. Seriously? Please say no or I will cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rude Gullit said: Seriously? Please say no or I will cry. Aye. Davie Provan was well known for his political views even when he played with Celtic. Murdo MacLeod, a very good player for all his clubs and his country and a genuinely nice bloke, but also a die hard Tory supporter I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: Provan and Murdo MacLeod still make the occasional after dinner speech at constituency Conservative Party events. 🙀🙀🙀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Don't follow rugby but I'm always aghast that Scotland supporters put up with Scotland games on the BBC being presented by Mr Creepy Middle England John Inverdale. I suppose this is the same sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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