Tartan Chris Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Bates starting again for Hamburg. 0-0 at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: Bates starting again for Hamburg. 0-0 at half time. They won 1-0 and he played the full 90 minutes. I'd like to see the stat of how many they've won when he was playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMcD Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: They won 1-0 and he played the full 90 minutes. I'd like to see the stat of how many they've won when he was playing. The Hamburg defence looked pretty poor. A mistake by Bates early on, plus he got done for speed during a couple of counter attacks by Dresden. The goal for Hamburg was brought about by a massive error by the young keeper in the Dresden goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Interesting stats for Bates tonight, he never made a tackle or won the ball in the air according to who scored .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: They won 1-0 and he played the full 90 minutes. I'd like to see the stat of how many they've won when he was playing. In the league this year Hamburg have won 9 of the 14 matches with Bates starting. 3 of the 5 matches they did not win were scoreless draws. They have won 4 from 7 games without him starting. So on paper they are slightly better when he starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 10:47 PM, ceudmilefailte said: Interesting stats for Bates tonight, he never made a tackle or won the ball in the air according to who scored .com Paolo Maldini used to say if he had to make a tackle he’d already made a mistake 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 hours ago, McTeeko said: Paolo Maldini used to say if he had to make a tackle he’d already made a mistake 👍🏼 And if you can keep a clean sheet without making a tackle, and still be picked every week (as Bates is) then you're doing something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Any one know what's going on with McBurnie he is only on bench again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Any one know what's going on with McBurnie he is only on bench again tonight. Carrying a few small injuries apparently. Nothing sinister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 It said on tv last night he was ill at the weekend and not 100 per cent. Took his penalty well and played ok when he came on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Watched Wednesday vs Millwall Liam Palmer had a decent game for Sheffield Wednesday on Tuesday. 6 clean sheets in his last 9 league games, and has looked better going forward. Wasn't embarrassed against Chelsea either, even tho he had Willian to deal with. Got to be on the fringe of the squad now. Fletch had a wasteful day. Some decent link up play, but missed some chances he should really be putting away. Bannan got put out on the left, and was rubbish (as were Wednesday). He was then moved in field and made the team tick, some lovely thru balls that deserved goals. Steve Bruce said afterwards he's learnt how important Bannan is centrally and wont be using him wide again. Jordan Archer was ok for the most part. But late on had an absolute howler that should have cost Millwall the game. A goal kick that he completely miss-hit. It bounced before it reached his own defenders and Wednesday should really have done better, Fletch being greedy and refusing to lay it off when 2v1 against a defender. At the point where Archer really shouldn't be anywhere near the squad imo. He looks a decent keeper most of the time, but always seems to have a bizarre moment of madness in him. Edited February 14, 2019 by andyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just thought I'd note.. Ethan Hamilton's gone out on loan from Man Utd for his first taste of senior football. Joined Rochdale, who are battling relegation in League One. Played 90 minutes in all of the 5 games he's been there for so far, and bagged a couple of goals, which is good. Also racked up 4 bookings in 5 games, so he might be a little bit over excited. But will keep an eye on his progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Gerrard has said Dapo Mebude may make an appearance from the bench for Rangers this weekend. He's called him back from Scotland U19 duty because of Morelos' suspension and injuries to Defoe & Lafferty. Would be good to see the lad get more first teams chances in the same way Johnston is at Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Half the Scotland team played last night and no one think's it's worth a comment. Lets stick to clean sheet for Bates, goal for McBurnie assist for Fraser and any other good news going. Seeing as Burke is being seen as the great white hope, lets make excuses for him. Lets ignore the fact that the only Scotsman who didn't look out of place last night has retired. Lets ignore the fact that all Forrest, Christie and McGregor have really done is looked good against 2nd rate domestic clubs and third rate international countries. Let's be Scottish and continue to live in fantasy land. Did Jock Stein once play a team of Anglo's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Half the Scotland team played last night and no one think's it's worth a comment. Lets stick to clean sheet for Bates, goal for McBurnie assist for Fraser and any other good news going. Seeing as Burke is being seen as the great white hope, lets make excuses for him. Lets ignore the fact that the only Scotsman who didn't look out of place last night has retired. Lets ignore the fact that all Forrest, Christie and McGregor have really done is looked good against 2nd rate domestic clubs and third rate international countries. Let's be Scottish and continue to live in fantasy land. Did Jock Stein once play a team of Anglo's? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47247691 Scott Brown 2.92/10 - worst rated Celtic player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rude Gullit said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47247691 Scott Brown 2.92/10 - worst rated Celtic player. Always wonder why McGinn gets such a rough ride whilst Brown gets away with giving the ball away without much comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: Always wonder why McGinn gets such a rough ride whilst Brown gets away with giving the ball away without much comment. I've always loved Brown's commitment but never really rated him as a footballer. Too many games he's chased shadows and gone flying into challenges he'll never win and everyone praising him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: Always wonder why McGinn gets such a rough ride whilst Brown gets away with giving the ball away without much comment. Brown had a 90% pass success rate on Thursday best of the Scottish players (McGinn's latest game he had 71% ) 9 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: Always wonder why McGinn gets such a rough ride whilst Brown gets away with giving the ball away without much comment. My rating system of choice had him as best Celtic player with 6.7 5 hours ago, csinclair said: I've always loved Brown's commitment but never really rated him as a footballer. Too many games he's chased shadows and gone flying into challenges he'll never win and everyone praising him for it. He Completed 5 tackles on Thursday which was more than any one else on the park. Any way post wasn't meant to be about Brown rather the failures of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Half the Scotland team played last night and no one think's it's worth a comment. Lets stick to clean sheet for Bates, goal for McBurnie assist for Fraser and any other good news going. Seeing as Burke is being seen as the great white hope, lets make excuses for him. Lets ignore the fact that the only Scotsman who didn't look out of place last night has retired. Lets ignore the fact that all Forrest, Christie and McGregor have really done is looked good against 2nd rate domestic clubs and third rate international countries. Let's be Scottish and continue to live in fantasy land. Did Jock Stein once play a team of Anglo's? Before making it an all Scottish player bashing you are over-looking the non-Scottish players in the side who failed to impress who are fully-fledged internationals such as Boyata, Weah and Izaguirre. You are also forgetting that the likes of Forrest, Christie and McGregor all played their parts in getting Celtic through to where they are in the Europa League as in the knock-out stages where they have had to get results against more than decent European sides. Still go ahead and bash as I am sure you will. As for Burke not everyone sees him as the great white hope. I know I don't. But at least he is at a club now where he is being given a chance so at least that is a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Brown had a 90% pass success rate on Thursday best of the Scottish players (McGinn's latest game he had 71% ) My rating system of choice had him as best Celtic player with 6.7 He Completed 5 tackles on Thursday which was more than any one else on the park. Any way post wasn't meant to be about Brown rather the failures of others. Stop looking at ratings systems and watch the game, Brown was woeful absolutely terrible. His pass completion was probably so high as after successful screwing a couple of long passes out the park and underhitting one back to the keeper he stuck to 5 yard square passes for the rest of the game. Btw McGregor wasn't much better but at least for him this was a one off and he still tried to make things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 McGinn was the best player for a very poor Aston Villa today. Hutton would still do a job for us. Morrison and Phillips weren't even on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 19 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: Always wonder why McGinn gets such a rough ride whilst Brown gets away with giving the ball away without much comment. Me too. A huge plus that Brown has retired IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PASTA Mick said: McGinn was the best player for a very poor Aston Villa today. Hutton would still do a job for us. Morrison and Phillips weren't even on the bench. Think Phillips is injured. Went on a WBA fans forum the other say to see what they are saying about Burke and it was notable how highly they regard Phillips. I think it's a pity he's not appreciated enough for Scotland. My order of preference for strikers when fit: 1 Griffiths 2 Naismith 3 Phillips 4 Fletcher 5 McBurnie 6 Russell 7 Burke (this is very fluid!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PASTA Mick said: McGinn was the best player for a very poor Aston Villa today. Hutton would still do a job for us. Morrison and Phillips weren't even on the bench. Don't think Morrison will be near the squad again and Phillips is still out injured, Plays pretty much every game when fit. Stats agree with you on the Villa players' 90% pass success rate for McGinn, He's as good as Scott Brown now. 6 hours ago, bazmidd said: Stop looking at ratings systems and watch the game, Brown was woeful absolutely terrible. His pass completion was probably so high as after successful screwing a couple of long passes out the park and underhitting one back to the keeper he stuck to 5 yard square passes for the rest of the game. Btw McGregor wasn't much better but at least for him this was a one off and he still tried to make things happen. Went to the stats site after watching the game to see if I could find anything positive out of a very bad performance. Celtic were a massive letdown and created a massive hole in the optimism I have felt since the last two nations league games. 9 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Before making it an all Scottish player bashing you are over-looking the non-Scottish players in the side who failed to impress who are fully-fledged internationals such as Boyata, Weah and Izaguirre. You are also forgetting that the likes of Forrest, Christie and McGregor all played their parts in getting Celtic through to where they are in the Europa League as in the knock-out stages where they have had to get results against more than decent European sides. Still go ahead and bash as I am sure you will. As for Burke not everyone sees him as the great white hope. I know I don't. But at least he is at a club now where he is being given a chance so at least that is a positive. 9 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: It wasn't just the Scottish players that were poor but it is them that I am interested in. Decided to be more positive and say that if Tierney and Simunovic had played we would have seen a lot more from the midfield and attacking players. It was also good to see Bain in goal no disrespect to Gordon intended , but to see probably our best under 30 goalie playing in top level games can only be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Don't think Morrison will be near the squad again and Phillips is still out injured, Plays pretty much every game when fit. Stats agree with you on the Villa players' 90% pass success rate for McGinn, He's as good as Scott Brown now. Went to the stats site after watching the game to see if I could find anything positive out of a very bad performance. Celtic were a massive letdown and created a massive hole in the optimism I have felt since the last two nations league games. It wasn't just the Scottish players that were poor but it is them that I am interested in. Decided to be more positive and say that if Tierney and Simunovic had played we would have seen a lot more from the midfield and attacking players. It was also good to see Bain in goal no disrespect to Gordon intended , but to see probably our best under 30 goalie playing in top level games can only be good Teams do have off nights you know. Even the pundits felt the whole thing was flat. The atmosphere and the team performance - it happens. Seems too much like you are trying to read everything into this game and disregard previous matches in European run that Celtic's Scotland players have done very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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