syecosse Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Aberdeen chasing Tom Mcintyre as he left Portsmouth by mutual consent. Matt Phillips has also left Oxford. Quote
borojock Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Was hoping for some moves for - Gunn, Gordon, Paterson, Robertson, to help increase their playing time Concerned about the playing time for our goalies Quote
Dodger Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, borojock said: Was hoping for some moves for - Gunn, Gordon, Paterson, Robertson, to help increase their playing time Concerned about the playing time for our goalies Unfortunately they all fall into the category of being unlikely to start many games but being too important to their clubs to let go. With Gunn, there's always the possibility they can let him leave his contract early if they get both other keepers fit and he can find another club. Quote
McFadders Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Dodger said: Unfortunately they all fall into the category of being unlikely to start many games but being too important to their clubs to let go. With Gunn, there's always the possibility they can let him leave his contract early if they get both other keepers fit and he can find another club. He can't join another club till the summer now as he needed to leave before the transfer window closed in England. Quote
Lenbo Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, syecosse said: Aberdeen chasing Tom Mcintyre as he left Portsmouth by mutual consent. Matt Phillips has also left Oxford. McIntyre always disappointed me. Never really kicked on after looking classy at age levels. Phillips always amazes me he isn't playing at somewhere like Kerala Blasters or Sliema Wanderers nowadays. Moves like a bridge. Quote
syecosse Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Sheffield United have signed Chris Eadie 18 from Rangers was on loan at Stirling Albion. Quote
Dodger Posted February 3 Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, McFadders said: He can't join another club till the summer now as he needed to leave before the transfer window closed in England. If they rip up his contract (it only runs to the end of the season anyway), I assume he becomes a free agent that could sign for anyone? If so then could be a possibility as he'll be third choice when they have everyone back fit. Quote
Lenbo Posted February 3 Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Dodger said: If they rip up his contract (it only runs to the end of the season anyway), I assume he becomes a free agent that could sign for anyone? If so then could be a possibility as he'll be third choice when they have everyone back fit. Only players who's contract ended before the window shuts can move. Hence why a group of players left clubs by mutual consent. Gunn's only hope is an emergency loan if an efl team genuinely has no fit goalies. or some sort of King Ralph style scenario at Forest. Quote
syecosse Posted February 3 Posted February 3 26 minutes ago, Lenbo said: McIntyre always disappointed me. Never really kicked on after looking classy at age levels. Phillips always amazes me he isn't playing at somewhere like Kerala Blasters or Sliema Wanderers nowadays. Moves like a bridge. Aberdeen have now signed Mcintyre. Quote
Dodger Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Lenbo said: Only players who's contract ended before the window shuts can move. Hence why a group of players left clubs by mutual consent. Gunn's only hope is an emergency loan if an efl team genuinely has no fit goalies. or some sort of King Ralph style scenario at Forest. Ok didn't realise that. Seems a bizarre rule. Quote
ceudmilefailte Posted February 4 Posted February 4 18 hours ago, syecosse said: Aberdeen have now signed Mcintyre. McIntyre and Morrison. Look forward to that. Quote
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted February 4 Posted February 4 20 hours ago, Dodger said: Ok didn't realise that. Seems a bizarre rule. Pretty sensible tbh otherwise there would be zero point in the windows, any player could move outside the window by having their contract ‘cancelled’. Quote
Burj_Alba Posted February 4 Posted February 4 10 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: McIntyre and Morrison. Look forward to that. Big problem for us is a lot of SPL strike partnerships might also be thinking that. Hopefully it will work out ok. Quote
Guest Posted February 5 Posted February 5 McInnes is right to criticise the James Wilson move. There is no way going to a development team in England is better than staying in Scotland and fighting for a place at Hearts or going out on loan to get first-team football. It must have been about money. Quote
0Neils40yarder Posted February 5 Posted February 5 7 hours ago, BryanBlessed said: McInnes is right to criticise the James Wilson move. There is no way going to a development team in England is better than staying in Scotland and fighting for a place at Hearts or going out on loan to get first-team football. It must have been about money. Surely a loanee doesn't get more money at his new club than he did at his parent club? It looks to me like the boys been scunnered not getting played, his agent has drummed up some interest and hes got 3 or 4 months now to prove himself at a huge club Quote
ProudScot Posted February 5 Posted February 5 8 hours ago, BryanBlessed said: McInnes is right to criticise the James Wilson move. There is no way going to a development team in England is better than staying in Scotland and fighting for a place at Hearts or going out on loan to get first-team football. It must have been about money. I disagree. McInnes has no intention of playing him, even with Shankland out injured. he’s gonna play some footy every week & maybe earn a move to a huge club. No brainer for me Quote
csinclair Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I disagree with McInnes in saying he should have stayed and fought for his place as even with Shankland injured he was barely getting a look in. I do agree with him though that if he wanted a loan he should have gone on loan in Scotland where he’d be playing men’s football. Going from playing senior football to playing PL2 does feel like going backwards. Hopefully he does still develop at Spurs and he can eventually be an EPL level striker (we sure could do with one) Quote
Guest Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Surely a loanee doesn't get more money at his new club than he did at his parent club? It looks to me like the boys been scunnered not getting played, his agent has drummed up some interest and hes got 3 or 4 months now to prove himself at a huge club I don't know if that's a rule or not. It can't possibly be for footballing reasons in my opinion. The absolute best-case scenario is he does well in the under 21's and makes the first team squad once or twice. I find that highly unlikely. Most of the players he plays with and against probably won't be anywhere near what he played with at Hearts or a lesser club. He might have access to better coaching but that's nowhere near as important as first-team football. Nathan Patterson has access to EPL coaching but everyone on here wanted him out on loan because they know actually playing in competitive matches (where the results mean something) is the most important thing. 50 minutes ago, ProudScot said: I disagree. McInnes has no intention of playing him, even with Shankland out injured. he’s gonna play some footy every week & maybe earn a move to a huge club. No brainer for me He's going to be playing under-21 football. How much do the results really matter? How many players actually go on to have good careers? Quote
Guest Posted February 5 Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, csinclair said: I disagree with McInnes in saying he should have stayed and fought for his place as even with Shankland injured he was barely getting a look in. I do agree with him though that if he wanted a loan he should have gone on loan in Scotland where he’d be playing men’s football. Going from playing senior football to playing PL2 does feel like going backwards. Hopefully he does still develop at Spurs and he can eventually be an EPL level striker (we sure could do with one) It's a crazy move. He's be better doing what Finlay Curtis did and going out on loan here. It's hard to think of any other player in Scotland who's gone from squad player in Scotland to development team in England. Quote
er yir macaroon Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 46 minutes ago, csinclair said: I disagree with McInnes in saying he should have stayed and fought for his place as even with Shankland injured he was barely getting a look in. I do agree with him though that if he wanted a loan he should have gone on loan in Scotland where he’d be playing men’s football. Going from playing senior football to playing PL2 does feel like going backwards. Hopefully he does still develop at Spurs and he can eventually be an EPL level striker (we sure could do with one) It's an interesting one. He's an 18 year old going to play in an u21 league. It's not certain he will actually stand out as he will be in amongst good players. If he does though, it will be noticed by EPL clubs. It's only for 4 months, so it could be a good education in terms of what a new environment is like and what he's left behind. If he's bought by Spurs at the end of the loan he'll probably go to a League 1 or Championship club on a further loan for a season. It's doubtful McInnes will be playing him in the first team at Hearts next season or we'd have seen more of him. Edited February 5 by er yir macaroon Quote
GHfaeGTA Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, BryanBlessed said: It's a crazy move. He's be better doing what Finlay Curtis did and going out on loan here. It's hard to think of any other player in Scotland who's gone from squad player in Scotland to development team in England. Bobby Wales in the Summer? Kerr Smith, Harry Souttar, Scott Banks and Brandon Forbes were all part of first team squad at Tannadice before moving down south to Under 21 football. Only Souttar has developed and in hindsight all would have been better staying up North although money talks. Edited February 5 by GHfaeGTA Quote
theabsentee Posted February 6 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: Bobby Wales in the Summer? Kerr Smith, Harry Souttar, Scott Banks and Brandon Forbes were all part of first team squad at Tannadice before moving down south to Under 21 football. Only Souttar has developed and in hindsight all would have been better staying up North although money talks. I don't think it's conclusive either way. They'll have earned better money & most have probably had better coaching down South. Banks is still having a decent career but hasn't developed from the outstanding youth player he was at United and Palace. Smith and Forbes still have time on their side. Bobby Wales looks to have potential,but the championship is probably a league too high for him right now and that's why they've sent him to Huddersfield in League One on loan. Quote
syecosse Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Helsingborgs after Alex Lowry is not one i expected. Quote
Guest Posted February 6 Posted February 6 13 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: Bobby Wales in the Summer? Kerr Smith, Harry Souttar, Scott Banks and Brandon Forbes were all part of first team squad at Tannadice before moving down south to Under 21 football. Only Souttar has developed and in hindsight all would have been better staying up North although money talks. I don't think Bobby Wales went with the plan that he'd be in the under 21's. I don't know if Harry Souttar did either. James Wilson can't possibly think he is going to get anywhere near the first-team squad and surely that's been made clear to him? People say that they'll get a better standard of coaching in England but surely first-team football in Scotland beats better coaching in England? Nathan Patterson gets EPL coaching but everyone on here agrees that he needs to play more even if it means going down a level. Quote
csinclair Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Rory Wilson reported to be going to Sturm Graz on loan Quote
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