kumnio Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Chripper said: See? Logic and I are tight. Another post that contradicts what you posted earlier. Logic really isnt your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, kumnio said: Another post that contradicts what you posted earlier. Logic really isnt your friend. Really? How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 If Alan Hutton can go to the EPL for £9 million ten years ago, I have no issue with imagining a team would pay over £20 million for Tierney these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrniaboc said: If Alan Hutton can go to the EPL for £9 million ten years ago, I have no issue with imagining a team would pay over £20 million for Tierney these days. I would say there is a difference there though. Hutton was being lauded for impressive performances for Scotland where he was being labelled as 'the white Cafu' following displays against top sides such as Italy and France. Tierney has yet to reach that peak at international level so to potential buyers they can only go on his pergormances largely in the SPL. Edited February 28, 2019 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: I would say there is a difference there though. Hutton was being lauded for impressive performances for Scotland where he was being labelled as 'the white Cafu' following displays against top sides such as Italy and France. Tierney has yet to reach that peak at international level so to potential buyers they can only go on his pergormances largely in the SPL. Wasn't it 'the Scottish Cafu'? Anyway, fair point. However, captaining your country at age 20 is also pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 18 hours ago, Chripper said: It's not? Rumour has it that Brendan Rodgers had a "player selling" clause on his contract, like the one Jackie McNamara had at Dundee United. The £15m offer was declined because Rodgers would've gotten a percentage of the sale (around £5m), but now he's gone it'll pave the way for Tierney's exit. Rumour has it that Man City are looking at Chillwell, so that could signal Tierney's move to Leicester. I'll reiterate it again, if a team places a bid of £13-£15m Celtic will accept it. See? Logic and I are tight. You're just making stuff up now to suit your argument. You've an impressive knack of that, so fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: Wasn't it 'the Scottish Cafu'? Anyway, fair point. However, captaining your country at age 20 is also pretty impressive. Could be wrong, but there's probably a few things holding Tierney back from a big move, beyond the fact that there's no clubs really in the market for a left back. He's barely played at left back for Scotland, not a single game since 2016. His team's shipped 29 goals in his 9 Champions League appearances. Questionable injury record, having already done his crutiate ligament and spent months out with his hip this season. 6 year contracts don't make him attractive as you'll always have to the top price for him. Seems to lacks any ambition to compete at the top level, content to be a big fish in a small pond. So while we all know what a good player he is in the Scottish Prem, and that he's had some good performances in some of those Champions League games, there's reasons why a big club might not want to take a gamble on him. In terms of fees, the landscape of Scottish football has changed in 10 years. There used to be some money in Scottish football, before Setanta went bust and then Rangers fell apart. Right now there's very little money in the league, which makes it difficult for clubs (even Celtic) to demand big fees for players. Like I said earlier, there's only a handful of players who've left for over £5m in the last 10 years. Tierney would be another of those, but the idea that he'd fetch more than Dembele is, i think, a bit wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: You're just making stuff up now to suit your argument. You've an impressive knack of that, so fair play. No. There is a rumour circulating that Rodgers had a player-selling clause. Apparently Rodgers tried to sell Dembele to Bright back in Jan 2018. Why would you try to sell your best striker whilst you're going for a double-treble if you aren't going to profit? If you also think that things like this don't happen if football then I don't know what to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 12:27 PM, Chripper said: For example, in the "starting 11" thread I'll value the most recent team that a poster selected: McGregor (£1m) Tierney (£10m) Bates (£1m) McKenna (£5m) Robertson (£45m) Armstrong (£7m) McGinn (£3m) McLean (500k) Forrest (£8m) Fletcher (£3m) Fraser (£16m) Hopefully that's the cold shower that people need. In a world where players are going for £100's of millions we only have 3 players who are in double digits, million wise. And the midfield above is incredibly pathetic. 8 mil for Forrest 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirk said: 8 mil for Forrest 😂😂😂😂 Too high or too low? In order to form a rebuttal you have to say something that's not ambiguous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Too high or too low? In order to form a rebuttal you have to say something that's not ambiguous. On this season's form £8m seems reasonable to me. Armstrong went for, what, £6m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Rude Gullit said: On this season's form £8m seems reasonable to me. Armstrong went for, what, £6m? I think it was £7m. To be honest I'm not sure if he thinks £8m is too steep or too cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rude Gullit said: On this season's form £8m seems reasonable to me. Armstrong went for, what, £6m? Armstrong went for £3m more than he should have doesn't mean you can add on £3m onto the value of every one else...................or does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 5:38 AM, andyD said: Honestly don't see anyone buying Tierney.. No one needs him at this point. A shame Luke Shaw's found some form, for sure. And the reality is that in any market, you pay what you have to. And with so little money in Scottish football these days, it's a bargain bin that can't command much in the way of big fees, now and for the foreseeable future. Bit of a quiz for you.. How many players have left Scottish football for a fee of £5m+ in the last 10 years? I can think of 6. VvD, McGeady, Dembele, Forster, Wanyama and Armstrong. 6 in 10 years. The English Championship has had more than twice that many just this season. Gary Hooper Aiden Mcgeady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, euan2020 said: Gary Hooper Aiden Mcgeady McGeady's already on the list, but Hooper is a good shout.. we're up to 7.... yay. ;o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, euan2020 said: Gary Hooper Aiden Mcgeady Both are foreign. How many Scots have been transferred to English football for £5m+ Not that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chripper said: Both are foreign. How many Scots have been transferred to English football for £5m+ Not that many. To be fair, my point was about the ability of the league to demand fees for players, full stop. and even with Hooper on the list that's 7 in 10 years, while the English Championship had 15-16 just this season. How many Scots left Scotland for over 5m in the last 10 years.. just the one afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, andyD said: To be fair, my point was about the ability of the league to demand fees for players, full stop. and even with Hooper on the list that's 7 in 10 years, while the English Championship had 15-16 just this season. How many Scots left Scotland for over 5m in the last 10 years.. just the one afaik. Just having "Scottish" beside a player's name brings down the valuation. It would appear that some people here don't like that thought, but it's the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 A couple of places are reporting that Rodgers will make McGinn one of his targets: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/brendan-rodgers-wants-dedryck-boyata-14078043 Very interesting for a few reasons. £20million seems a bit OTT even if you don't subscribe to Chripper's views! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: A couple of places are reporting that Rodgers will make McGinn one of his targets: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/brendan-rodgers-wants-dedryck-boyata-14078043 Very interesting for a few reasons. £20million seems a bit OTT even if you don't subscribe to Chripper's views! Hope he decimates that Celtic side in the summer personally, well the Scots mainly. Plenty champions league quality sides to play against already in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JECK said: Hope he decimates that Celtic side in the summer personally, well the Scots mainly. Plenty champions league quality sides to play against already in England. Callum McGregor must be 1000097% likely to move to Leicester in the summer Edited March 3, 2019 by ProudScot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Callum McGregor must be 1000097% likely to move to Leicester in the summer I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: I doubt it. I agree. If McGregor were to move then move to a club in the EPL that are actually going to compete for trophies and qualify for Europe and that ain't going to be Leicester under Brendan Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I agree. If McGregor were to move then move to a club in the EPL that are actually going to compete for trophies and qualify for Europe and that ain't going to be Leicester under Brendan Rodgers. I don’t know if he’s good enough to play for a team better than Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, ProudScot said: I don’t know if he’s good enough to play for a team better than Leicester Well if not better that he stays where he is and gets European football in him and continues club understanding at international level with Christie and Forrest around him rather than go to a club who won't win anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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