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21 minutes ago, Scots_Wha_Hae said:

I doubt anyone at Liverpool thinks he’ll be ‘challenging’ Trent, Trent is a generational talent and possibly the best RB in the world. The demands of squad management for a side like Liverpool are huge now though; between the league, cups, internationals etc. Trent will play 45-50 games a season. That’s very tough and I’d imagine they would want to reduce that somewhat. I think Ramsay will play a role like Tmiskas, allowing Trent to rest like Robertson, and he will chalk up 10-15 games a season.

At that level he’ll be playing enough to challenge for international starts.

That would be the biggest leap any young scottish player has ever made imo. To go from a very poor aberdeen side to playing 10-15 games for one of the best teams in the world is unheard of in terms of our young players. 

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Just now, mccaughey85 said:

That would be the biggest leap any young scottish player has ever made imo. To go from a very poor aberdeen side to playing 10-15 games for one of the best teams in the world is unheard of in terms of our young players. 

Klopp and Liverpool rarely get their recruitment wrong too. 

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12 minutes ago, bigfingers said:

Klopp and Liverpool rarely get their recruitment wrong too. 

Yeh maybe true but aberdeen should be getting alot more than 4m if liverpool are going to use him in the first team. Especially when you consider patterson went for 11m and has barely played for everton.

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33 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said:

Yeh maybe true but aberdeen should be getting alot more than 4m if liverpool are going to use him in the first team. Especially when you consider patterson went for 11m and has barely played for everton.

Yeah but Paterson played more in Europe and was already part of the Scotland set up. Ramsay hasn’t even been called up to our first team squad yet. 

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14 minutes ago, bigfingers said:

Yeah but Paterson played more in Europe and was already part of the Scotland set up. Ramsay hasn’t even been called up to our first team squad yet. 

Nathan Patterson isn't Carlos Alberto.

Some perspective is required - so far he has played in precisely 28 first team games for his two clubs.

Calvin Ramsay played in 39 first team games for Aberdeen.

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23 minutes ago, bigfingers said:

Yeah but Paterson played more in Europe and was already part of the Scotland set up. Ramsay hasn’t even been called up to our first team squad yet. 

Point still stands, if liverpool want a back up for trent then aberdeen should be getting at least a few million more upfront. Guys who cost 4m tend not to get into the liverpool first team. 

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6 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said:

Point still stands, if liverpool want a back up for trent then aberdeen should be getting at least a few million more upfront. Guys who cost 4m tend not to get into the liverpool first team. 

The transfer fee has little to do with the squad status of the buying club.

The reason Patterson went for double (other than the points raised above) is that he will have been on at least double the wages and Rangers could afford to hold out for much more money.

If Everton bid 5 million for Patterson ans Rangers turned it down then Patterson couldnt really complain / cause problems as he would already be getting the wages of a 5 million type player. Ramsey at Aberdeen wouldnt have been so the 1st thing his agent would have been saying to Aberdeen is, if you think he is currently worth more than 5 million then we expect a new contract reflecting that. Thats how football works and given Aberdeen wouldnt be able to afford said wage, they have no real option but to sell for the best price they can get.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said:

The transfer fee has little to do with the squad status of the buying club.

The reason Patterson went for double (other than the points raised above) is that he will have been on at least double the wages and Rangers could afford to hold out for much more money.

If Everton bid 5 million for Patterson ans Rangers turned it down then Patterson couldnt really complain / cause problems as he would already be getting the wages of a 5 million type player. Ramsey at Aberdeen wouldnt have been so the 1st thing his agent would have been saying to Aberdeen is, if you think he is currently worth more than 5 million then we expect a new contract reflecting that. Thats how football works and given Aberdeen wouldnt be able to afford said wage, they have no real option but to sell for the best price they can get.

 

 

Patterson didn’t go for double the Ramsay fee because he’s on double the wages 🤣

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35 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:

Nathan Patterson isn't Carlos Alberto.

Some perspective is required - so far he has played in precisely 28 first team games for his two clubs.

Calvin Ramsay played in 39 first team games for Aberdeen.

Patterson impressed in both Europe and for Scotland hence why he got the move.

Ramsay is a good player with potential, he was part of a defence which came close to the relegation play off last season & Youd think Aberdeen have done very well to get the money they have - well done to them. 

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3 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

Patterson didn’t go for double the Ramsay fee because he’s on double the wages 🤣

Read the rest of the post. A players current wages will affect the selling clubs ability to realistically turn down an offer. The same way the length of contract remaining will affect the selling price.

If you think transfer fee is based solely on ability then you are deluded.

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27 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

Patterson impressed in both Europe and for Scotland hence why he got the move.

Ramsay is a good player with potential, he was part of a defence which came close to the relegation play off last season & Youd think Aberdeen have done very well to get the money they have - well done to them. 

I know I'm flogging a dead horse here with you, but where exactly has Patterson impressed in Europe and for Scotland?

With Scotland he's been a defensive liability - fine going forward but not reliable under pressure.

I'll trust you to inform the debate about his impressive performances for Rangers in Europe.

Until then, to me he seems a decent prospect who is being way over promoted as a Scotland right back in the face of stiff competition (Ralston, Ramsay and your favourite bitch O'Donnell).

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Fantastic move IMO. We’re just plainly not going to achieve anything at international level without players going on to the top leagues. Fair enough some may fail and may not be good enough but the more that move, only increases our chances. We should be aiming for a conveyor belt of talent moving to England, Spain, Germany and Italy.

Right who’s next?!

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11 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:

I know I'm flogging a dead horse here with you, but where exactly has Patterson impressed in Europe and for Scotland?

With Scotland he's been a defensive liability - fine going forward but not reliable under pressure.

I'll trust you to inform the debate about his impressive performances for Rangers in Europe.

Until then, to me he seems a decent prospect who is being way over promoted as a Scotland right back in the face of stiff competition (Ralston, Ramsay and your favourite bitch O'Donnell).

Patterson’s debut in Europe for Rangers was a start away against Legia Warsaw in which he played excellent & they won. His next appearance was off the bench at half time against Prague and he scored a brilliant goal 6 seconds after coming on.

If you even need his Scotland performances explained then you clearly don’t watch Scotland games 🤣🤣

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19 hours ago, mccaughey85 said:

Point still stands, if liverpool want a back up for trent then aberdeen should be getting at least a few million more upfront. Guys who cost 4m tend not to get into the liverpool first team. 

Think they absolutely took advantage of the Dons,  knowing they needed the cash because they were almost relegated due to a very poor quality team   & they desperately need to buy need better players.

It's a shame they had to sell, If they could've had his services for another year they may have been in a better position.

That's the sum of money a championship team should at least be paying. not a world class club. Or lack of class when it comes to their greed, unfortunately.

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3 hours ago, Mazda said:

Think they absolutely took advantage of the Dons,  knowing they needed the cash because they were almost relegated due to a very poor quality team   & they desperately need to buy need better players.

It's a shame they had to sell, If they could've had his services for another year they may have been in a better position.

That's the sum of money a championship team should at least be paying. not a world class club. Or lack of class when it comes to their greed, unfortunately.

Easy tiger.

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On 6/19/2022 at 8:15 PM, mccaughey85 said:

Point still stands, if liverpool want a back up for trent then aberdeen should be getting at least a few million more upfront. Guys who cost 4m tend not to get into the liverpool first team. 

Robertson was £8m (up front) from Hull and went became a first team regular. Liverpool wouldn't've signed him if they didn't think he could do a job, either within the next season or two. The fact the talk is he'll be involved with the first team squad is suggests they believe he's good enough now to be a backup option for Trent Alexander-Arnold.

The selling club determines the value at which they're willing to sell a player - which is why when a club needs money, they sell players for below the typical market rate for players of the player's quality. A buying club isn't going to offer more money out of sympathy in the same way no-one here would pay more for a product in a shop if you believe the shop has undervalued the item.

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11 hours ago, Mazda said:

Think they absolutely took advantage of the Dons,  knowing they needed the cash because they were almost relegated due to a very poor quality team   & they desperately need to buy need better players.

It's a shame they had to sell, If they could've had his services for another year they may have been in a better position.

That's the sum of money a championship team should at least be paying. not a world class club. Or lack of class when it comes to their greed, unfortunately.

was thinking thats same amount of transfer 4.2million that Duncan Ferguson went to Rangers from Dundee Utd - some 30 yrs back (almost ....)

 

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