Tartan blood Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: It is very disingenuous to suggest it is mostly due to the performance schools. Especially when you could make the complete opposite argument that the 2 best players from the performance schools by far came through at Rangers. It's a combination of the performance school extra coaching, very good youth coaching at Rangers and natural talent. Rangers completely revamped their youth set up during the Warburton era and spend by far the most on youth development of any club in Scotland. It's an area that has been massively focused on since. I'm sure they've won the u18 league the last 3 years. While that annoyingly hadn't translated to Gerrard giving young players a chance, it's absolutely ridiculous to say it is mostly the performance schools. Leon King is performance school. Rory Wilson is the next big elite level hope after that. I'm not sure if he is PS but he is one to watch out for. He's 15 and has scored about 5 or 6 hatricks at u18 level. You're right, I probably am unfairly taking away credit from Rangers. In reality, it's probably a combination of a lot of things. Rangers youths have taken away Celtic's dominance, so something has changed dramatically there. Which can't only be explained by recruiting PS players. As you say, Rangers hasn't seen the fruits of the labour yet, but hopefully GVB will be more interested in promoting youth. I also don't really care if they all leave, like Gilmour and Patterson. I really couldn't care less what teams Scottish players play for, I just care that they all get a fair shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Rangers might actually be a good place for Scottish youth the coaches they seem to have brought in have a lot to do with Ajax youths and Belgium youths for what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Dykes linked with Newcastle, Norwich and a couple of other clubs. Rangers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: Dykes linked with Newcastle, Norwich and a couple of other clubs. Rangers too. Hopefully he goes to Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 QPR are looking at signing David Marshall as cover due to Jordan Archers injury and there other keeper at the African nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, syecosse said: QPR are looking at signing David Marshall as cover due to Jordan Archers injury and there other keeper at the African nations. Two keepers who are unlikely to get in any squads in the future surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Two keepers who are unlikely to get in any squads in the future surely. I would probably bet on at least one of them making future squads. Marshall is 36 and could easily get himself to another championship/spl club where he would get games. Archer is only 28 and up until a few years ago was doing ok at league 1/championship level. Hes struggled to get games this last few years but 28 is still quite young for a keeper and he could probably do a job at a championship club. If he's playing English championship every week then he would probably get in our squad. Edited January 11, 2022 by mccaughey85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) According to the Scotsman: Leeis Ferguson wanted by several (unspecified) EPL clubs Kerr Smith set to go to Villa for up to £2m with add ons Celtic set to turn down £1.6 m bid from Udinese for Stephen Welsh as they want to keep him It seems our younger players are in demand! Edited January 11, 2022 by breeks_mctavish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 18 hours ago, breeks_mctavish said: According to the Scotsman: Leeis Ferguson wanted by several (unspecified) EPL clubs Kerr Smith set to go to Villa for up to £2m with add ons Celtic set to turn down £1.6 m bid from Udinese for Stephen Welsh as they want to keep him It seems our younger players are in demand! Well clearly EPL clubs have seen the talent that has come from Scotland in recent times with the likes of Robertson, Tierney, McGinn and Gilmour. They no doubt now realise there are the chance of picking up a gem dirt cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Elliot Anderson could be joining Luton on loan from Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Jamie Hamilton, under 21 CB from Hamilton Accies out of contract in the summer and being looked at by a few clubs; Celtic, Middlesbrough, Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Swansea keen on Ross Stewart. Scoring in the championship for a couple of months could be enough for a call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:19 PM, Malcolm said: Hopefully he goes to Newcastle. I'd rather he was playing in the EPL next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Looks like Kerr Smith to Villa has been confirmed. Call me cynical, but that'll be the last time we hear his name for about 4 years, unless he ends up having a successful loan spell elsewhere. Aside from that negativity, this could be good for his development. We aren't screaming out for new CBs, so I'm happy to be patient with this type of transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'd rather he was playing in the EPL next season. If the other epl alternative is Norwich that’s even more unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Looks like Souttar going to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Looks like Kerr Smith to Villa has been confirmed. Call me cynical, but that'll be the last time we hear his name for about 4 years, unless he ends up having a successful loan spell elsewhere. Aside from that negativity, this could be good for his development. We aren't screaming out for new CBs, so I'm happy to be patient with this type of transfer. Not sure thats the best move for him but hes probably getting paid more money. He's going to be no where near the villa first team for at least a couple of years. Would be best he gets a loan move to a league 1/2 club to help his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Malcolm said: Looks like Souttar going to Rangers. It’s a good step up for him. Champs league football (probably) next season. Rather that than he moves to the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: It’s a good step up for him. Champs league football (probably) next season. Rather that than he moves to the championship. agreed. My preference would be bundesliga/laliga/ serie A. Then Epl…. Then rangers then championship… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, Malcolm said: agreed. My preference would be bundesliga/laliga/ serie A. Then Epl…. Then rangers then championship… Its a good pecking order. Unless it’s a club like Norwich of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Its a good pecking order. Unless it’s a club like Norwich of course. Norwich is basically championship! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Not sure thats the best move for him but hes probably getting paid more money. He's going to be no where near the villa first team for at least a couple of years. Would be best he gets a loan move to a league 1/2 club to help his development. If he is good enough he will develop and break into the team. (Like Gilmour) If he isnt good enough he wont, like many others. Id rather all our young players went to the best clubs where they get the best coaching and then the cream will rise to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Every possibility souttar will drop to the bench or reserves at hearts now. May well be out of the play off games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: If he is good enough he will develop and break into the team. (Like Gilmour) If he isnt good enough he wont, like many others. Id rather all our young players went to the best clubs where they get the best coaching and then the cream will rise to the top. So are you saying they don’t get decent coaching in Scotland? The coaches he’s had must have been half decent due to fact he made his debut a few days after his 16th birthday after being at United since he was 7! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: So are you saying they don’t get decent coaching in Scotland? The coaches he’s had must have been half decent due to fact he made his debut a few days after his 16th birthday after being at United since he was 7! The best coaching setups tend to happen when the most money can be spent on them. Thats not about having the same number of coaches but paying them more. Its about having a coaching budget that is multiple times what it is in Scotland. Allowing for more coaches, different types of coaches, analysts, people to look after strength and conditioning, nutrition etc etc. If the same coaches in Scotland had the same budget and could employ all the same number and variety of staff then im sure they would do just as good a job but the money isnt there. Just as a very basic example, theres a reason why all Englands youth teams have every player looking like a toned athlete. Its because they get every advantage at their club, their blood is analised to determine what nutrients they require to make them bigger, stronger, faster etc. This isnt the same for every player so takes alot of money. Scottish teams just dont have the resources for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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