borojock Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said: Alan Tate had played for Swansea for years and was previously captain there. Sorry to say it but your view of the strength of Rangers is quite outdated given that they have been inferior to Aberdeen and quite a long way off Celtic. At the moment Rangers are a similar quality level to Hibs and Aberdeen. Given the money that the bigger teams in League One can pay, it's no surprise that lads like McGeouch choose to go down there. On McInnes, he is limited but all the Bristol City fans I have spoken to have said he literally had no chance given the budget was cut by 75% months after he kept them up then by 75% again the following season. Ultimately different players suit different leagues. I get completely why you think my view of Rangers is skewed off the last few seasons (for the record im not a rangers fan) and agree they are miles off Celtic not even playing the same game But why i think Rangers are operating at a higher level then Aberdeen is based on where i think they will be this season and the next few. If i was looking at last season and the couple before i would agree with you that Rangers would be at a lower level then Aberdeen and would say Rangers are an english league 1 club level which i think they have been since they have gone down to the bottom level. But i think Rangers are progressing in a better direction then Aberdeen because Aberdeen lost some key players - O'Connor (played a lot of games for them - gone to league 1), Arnason (didn't play much but a lot of experience and leadership qualities to help others in the squad), Christie gone who was arguably their most creative player, McLean gone mainstay in the team They have been replaced with players not as good in my opinion - Lewis Ferguson (young inexperienced and a gamble), Gleeson and Forrestor possibly improve them but im not sold on it I think the players rangers are bringing in are better quality then what Aberdeen have and have brought in - Murphy, Arfield, McGregor, Goldson, Flanagan. I think Rangers woefully under performed last season due to poor managers, no strong organisation or management at the club & if they can get some control and stability i think they will have a significantly improved season whereas i dont think Aberdeen will be as good as they have been the last few seasons Also I also think Rangers have at least english championship quality training ground/facilities, stadium & financial backing which i dont think Aberdeen have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, borojock said: I get completely why you think my view of Rangers is skewed off the last few seasons (for the record im not a rangers fan) and agree they are miles off Celtic not even playing the same game But why i think Rangers are operating at a higher level then Aberdeen is based on where i think they will be this season and the next few. If i was looking at last season and the couple before i would agree with you that Rangers would be at a lower level then Aberdeen and would say Rangers are an english league 1 club level which i think they have been since they have gone down to the bottom level. But i think Rangers are progressing in a better direction then Aberdeen because Aberdeen lost some key players - O'Connor (played a lot of games for them - gone to league 1), Arnason (didn't play much but a lot of experience and leadership qualities to help others in the squad), Christie gone who was arguably their most creative player, McLean gone mainstay in the team They have been replaced with players not as good in my opinion - Lewis Ferguson (young inexperienced and a gamble), Gleeson and Forrestor possibly improve them but im not sold on it I think the players rangers are bringing in are better quality then what Aberdeen have and have brought in - Murphy, Arfield, McGregor, Goldson, Flanagan. I think Rangers woefully under performed last season due to poor managers, no strong organisation or management at the club & if they can get some control and stability i think they will have a significantly improved season whereas i dont think Aberdeen will be as good as they have been the last few seasons Also I also think Rangers have at least english championship quality training ground/facilities, stadium & financial backing which i dont think Aberdeen have How can you say buying a young and inexperienced player in Lewis Ferguson for 100k is a gamble? He will be developed and could be sold on for more money in the future. The only player Aberdeen have lost who they will struggle to replace is Kenny Maclean but Forrester could be that man. Ryan Christie didn't do anything of note towards the end of the last season and Arnason was diabolical towards the end of last season and will be replaced by Mikey Devlin who has experience in the league. If Aberdeen keep McKenna they will be challenging for 2nd again next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, borojock said: I get completely why you think my view of Rangers is skewed off the last few seasons (for the record im not a rangers fan) and agree they are miles off Celtic not even playing the same game But why i think Rangers are operating at a higher level then Aberdeen is based on where i think they will be this season and the next few. If i was looking at last season and the couple before i would agree with you that Rangers would be at a lower level then Aberdeen and would say Rangers are an english league 1 club level which i think they have been since they have gone down to the bottom level. But i think Rangers are progressing in a better direction then Aberdeen because Aberdeen lost some key players - O'Connor (played a lot of games for them - gone to league 1), Arnason (didn't play much but a lot of experience and leadership qualities to help others in the squad), Christie gone who was arguably their most creative player, McLean gone mainstay in the team They have been replaced with players not as good in my opinion - Lewis Ferguson (young inexperienced and a gamble), Gleeson and Forrestor possibly improve them but im not sold on it I think the players rangers are bringing in are better quality then what Aberdeen have and have brought in - Murphy, Arfield, McGregor, Goldson, Flanagan. I think Rangers woefully under performed last season due to poor managers, no strong organisation or management at the club & if they can get some control and stability i think they will have a significantly improved season whereas i dont think Aberdeen will be as good as they have been the last few seasons Also I also think Rangers have at least english championship quality training ground/facilities, stadium & financial backing which i dont think Aberdeen have Totally understandable. Why I would disagree would be the two big things you mention there around organisation and financial stability - Rangers will not have either of those for the foreseeable future. The club is a shambles. I was speaking to one of their full time youth coaches about two months back now, and he was pretty uncompromising in describing the shambles that the club is in overall. Gerrard will improve the on-field side of it but so long as they remain so disorganised off the park, I can't see them pulling massively away from Hibs and Aberdeen or closing on Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 13 hours ago, scotlad said: And pretty useless for Thistle he was too. Ditto Mathias Pogba, who also scored fairly regularly in the lower tiers of he English league. Aye, told a number of Jags fans that he is not all that good (can run, and maybe got a goal or two in him, but that is his full season in a nut shell). Same last summer, Lyle Taylor was apparently in Glasgow for talks about a return to Thistle and forums were in melt down about how could a tin pot team from a tin pot league afford higher wages than AFCW 😂 Back to subject, reports Newcastle have rejected Stokes Ricthie offer, but sounds like he wants away to be closer to his family in the south of England (surely Stoke is not that much further south in the grand scheme of things?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 9:53 AM, wanderer said: Matt Ritchie to Stoke for £15m Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 In sadder news Reading have signed Marc McNulty. Interesting to see how he performs in the Championship. Whilst it was only League 2 he was very impressive this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 21 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: In sadder news Reading have signed Marc McNulty. Interesting to see how he performs in the Championship. Whilst it was only League 2 he was very impressive this season. That’s a decent move for him, hope he copes with the step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windae cleaner Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Rhodes signs with Norwich Tony Watt signs with St Johnstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 12:43 AM, Windae cleaner said: Rhodes signs with Norwich Tony Watt signs with St Johnstone Has ever a player with great potential gone into more rapid decline than Tony Watt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Ethan Hamilton has signed a new contract at Man Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: Ethan Hamilton has signed a new contract at Man Utd. McBurnie too with Swansea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Not a senior team player, but Ross Doohan who was one of the two keepers for the u21's in Toulon has signed a season long loan at Ayr Utd. He will definitely be starting the season as first choice keeper so will be interesting to see how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Rockefeller Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 23 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Has ever a player with great potential gone into more rapid decline than Tony Watt? You'd struggle to find anyone, in real danger of going to semi-pro/amateur level if he doesn't get a grip over the next year or two. That said I actually think this could turn out well for him. Tommy Wright won't accept a lazy attitude and is known for demanding his players give absolutely everything. He clearly has talent, but it's really last chance saloon for Tony Watt now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Jason Cummings to Peterborough on a year long loan. Can't see him being the answer to our striking problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonmk Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Depressing reading this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Bit depressing to read that Swansea are rumoured to be lining up a £2million bid for McKenna. Just £2million? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: Bit depressing to read that Swansea are rumoured to be lining up a £2million bid for McKenna. Just £2million? Really? Aberdeen need to hold out and try and get 4m. English clubs have no respect for the Scottish league so they put in low ball offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Never ceases to amaze me that people don't understand how football transfers work and think that the price paid for a player is solely indicative of their abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Liam Henderson looks set to be staying in Italy next season and heavily linked with Hellas Verona today. Still Serie B, but imagine if he keeps his form that he had at Bari, would maybe find his way into Ecks plans for a call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, wanderer said: Liam Henderson looks set to be staying in Italy next season and heavily linked with Hellas Verona today. Still Serie B, but imagine if he keeps his form that he had at Bari, would maybe find his way into Ecks plans for a call up. I read yesterday that Bari have been relegated to Serie D (for financial irregularities, that old classic of Italian football). In view of that, a move to Verona would be a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, scotlad said: I read yesterday that Bari have been relegated to Serie D (for financial irregularities, that old classic of Italian football). In view of that, a move to Verona would be a good one. Four year deal agreed apparently (just waiting on approval from Italian FA over the status of his Bari contract, but looks a done deal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 6:35 AM, Hercules Rockefeller said: You'd struggle to find anyone, in real danger of going to semi-pro/amateur level if he doesn't get a grip over the next year or two. That said I actually think this could turn out well for him. Tommy Wright won't accept a lazy attitude and is known for demanding his players give absolutely everything. He clearly has talent, but it's really last chance saloon for Tony Watt now. Well said. If there’s a club in the top flight who can’t afford someone to go hiding it’s Saints. As small as we are our success over recent years is down to team-like hard graft. No chance of a superstar turning it on only when he can be arsed at a side like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 hours ago, wanderer said: Four year deal agreed apparently (just waiting on approval from Italian FA over the status of his Bari contract, but looks a done deal) If he was offered an opportunity at several Serie A clubs then it looks like he's made a thought through decision. Staying with a manger where there is mutual respect seems sensible when he's only been Italy a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) According to the sun, Ryan Gauld is going to Boavista Edited July 22, 2018 by Bobby Russell's Lovechild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: According to the sun, Ryan Gauld is going to Boavista No quotes to back up the story. Maybe a good move if there’s any truth in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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