Willie Miller's tache Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/28/2018 at 10:17 AM, SMcoolJ said: 100%. Hard one to punish retrospectively but Ramos knew exactly what he was doing. Why else lock onto Salah’s arm and roll over him? In some ways, you’ve got to admire his opportunism. However, he’s the devil incarnate. He’d switch off your life support machine to charge his phone. Mmm, not sure about that. He locked Salah’s right arm but it was the left shoulder that got injured. Ramos is still a horrible bastard though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/26/2018 at 11:23 PM, Ally Bongo said: Just seen the clip of Ramos deliberately and sneakily elbowing Karius in the head around the 49th minute Maybe mild concussion after it On 5/27/2018 at 9:38 AM, phart said: It's probable. Concussions are weird things, you see it in fighting an innocuous blow can be devastating to decision making process, happens all the time. Confirmed https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44363648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Confirmed https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44363648 Yeah just saw this and came to post Certainly makes a lot of sense. Ramos is fly as fuck but what an influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ParisInAKilt Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/04/concussion-loris-karius-liverpool-goalkeeper-champions-league-final-massachusetts guardian article calls it a challenge by Ramos 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Why did they have to send him all the way to Massachusetts for tests? Surely that could have been done here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Why did they have to send him all the way to Massachusetts for tests? The lights all went out in Massachusetts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Why did they have to send him all the way to Massachusetts for tests? Surely that could have been done here? Im sure I read he was on holiday near there and felt unwell. Edited June 5, 2018 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool78 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 13 hours ago, phart said: look closer Van Dijk pushes Ramos as the ball is crossed which in turns makes Ramos go into the Keeper and causing the injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: Im sure I read he was on holiday near there and felt unwell. Liverpool are owned by the same people that own the Boston Red Sox, I'm sure its entirely coincidental. Basically Liverpool have thrown their medical department under a bus to save the reputation of their goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 In what way does it throw the medical department under the bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, phart said: In what way does it throw the medical department under the bus? By implying that they didn't spot the concussion - or alert the management to the possibility. They are trying obviously to shift the blame on to Ramos, after all he is a bit of a pantomime villain anyway but the implication is they should have subbed the keeper. They also seem to have left it undiagnosed, you would have thought that any competent medical team would have had him tested after the game if there was any suspicison of concussion. Edited June 5, 2018 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) At the end of last year the NFL made significant changes to it's concussion protocol which had been violated on occasion since it was introduced some years ago If it's rules had been implemented an expert in a booth would have instructed Karius to be taken off for examination Clearly in NFL you can come off the field and return at any time and in football he would have had to be subbed Maybe it's time for that to be introduced to football as well - in fact with the money involved along with the potential for injury law suits id say it's almost guaranteed to come in within the next 5-10 years Edited June 5, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, aaid said: By implying that they didn't spot the concussion - or alert the management to the possibility. They are trying obviously to shift the blame on to Ramos, after all he is a bit of a pantomime villain anyway but the implication is they should have subbed the keeper. They also seem to have left it undiagnosed, you would have thought that any competent medical team would have had him tested after the game if there was any suspicison of concussion. Yeah but he showed no obvious signs, and no protocol is in place for them to make the decision. I can see what you're saying but I don't think it reflects that badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, phart said: Yeah but he showed no obvious signs, and no protocol is in place for them to make the decision. I can see what you're saying but I don't think it reflects that badly. Perhaps I'm just being cynical about the motives here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Miller's tache Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 hours ago, aaid said: Liverpool are owned by the same people that own the Boston Red Sox, I'm sure its entirely coincidental. Basically Liverpool have thrown their medical department under a bus to save the reputation of their goalkeeper. Absolutely. Liverpool desperately trying to save karius’ reputation because they want to offload him (for obvious reasons) and without the concussion excuse, theyre not going to get terribly much for him. I’m sure if they pay the quack in Boston enough, he’ll also say karius was concussed during all those other games he’s had a howler. I wonder if those plucky scousers have started a petition to have the final replayed yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 It's opening up some debate at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Lost all credibility as soon as he says 24 year old kid. The tweet he has quoted is obviously a bad attempt at a joke, is that not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 hours ago, kumnio said: Lost all credibility as soon as he says 24 year old kid. The tweet he has quoted is obviously a bad attempt at a joke, is that not allowed. It's American sporting vernacular. Everyone who plays is a kid for folk of a certain age. I noticed it watching inside the NBA and especially in boxing and MMA. I don't think anyone is commenting on the guy being allowed to joke or not. The other guy is a tad bit sensitive though lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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