Tartan_McCole Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 If VAR isn't set up in a way where it can't review serious challenges like Piques yesterday then the jobs effed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The VAR incidents in the Portugal game last night where pretty ridiculous. I think overall it's worked well but there is definitely a lack of transparency and the fact that the fans in the stadium and punters watching on TV have no idea what's going on is worrying. I wonder if further down the line, it might be best to move to a challenge type set up, where a team has 3 challenges per game or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Mox said: The VAR incidents in the Portugal game last night where pretty ridiculous. I think overall it's worked well but there is definitely a lack of transparency and the fact that the fans in the stadium and punters watching on TV have no idea what's going on is worrying. I wonder if further down the line, it might be best to move to a challenge type set up, where a team has 3 challenges per game or something similar. Just get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/fan-spotted-wearing-glasgow-f-14828616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, macy37 said: Just get rid of it. The top man should be the ref only, then give the managers two video 'challenges' per game each as they're the ones with the stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Mox said: The VAR incidents in the Portugal game last night where pretty ridiculous. I think overall it's worked well but there is definitely a lack of transparency and the fact that the fans in the stadium and punters watching on TV have no idea what's going on is worrying. I wonder if further down the line, it might be best to move to a challenge type set up, where a team has 3 challenges per game or something similar. Which are then used tactically at points in the game when the manager wants to break up the flow of the game, or have a word with his team. Bad idea, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I really don't think there is any issue with VAR and it's already proven to be a worthwhle tool. For the most part it hasn't disrupted the flow of the game and the overwhelming majority of the incidents it's been used for has resulted in the correct decision being made. The one's that are still being argued about are incidents that generally always cause controversy anyway due to the ambiguity of the laws and the fact that it's left up to a referee's interpretation. How many times do we see pundits argue about decisions in a studio after seeing numerous replays? So now instead of arguing about a referee's decision during the game, they're arguing about it after he's watched a replay. I think of the incidents that it has been used for I would say that the Iran penalty was incorrect and possibly the France penalty v Australia. There are far, far more incidents where it's been used to get to the correct decision and without VAR we would likely be talking about how referees and assistant referees need to allowed to use technology to get the big calls right. I think if you are going into this expecting VAR to eliminate all errors then I think you'll be disappointed as due to the prescence of a human being in the decision process there is always the scope for human error. Personally i'm happy if it helps eliminate the majority of the errors , which during this World Cup it has allowed the referees to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Here are the potential round of sixteen matches. Germany failing to win their group will likely see them play Brazil in the knockout round - giving them a very tough path to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Which are then used tactically at points in the game when the manager wants to break up the flow of the game, or have a word with his team. Bad idea, IMO. What's more important the flow of the game or the sanctity of the result, you always have to balance those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The biggest issue with VAR in this World Cup is not VAR itself, but that referees are still able to make appalling mistakes despite looking at replays. The standard of refereeing has to improve for any implementation of VAR to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 the biggest disappointment with the VAR is that it gives the players even more opportunity to behave like 5 year old kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: Here are the potential round of sixteen matches. Germany failing to win their group will likely see them play Brazil in the knockout round - giving them a very tough path to the final. Are there any Scots in that GB team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Orraloon said: Are there any Scots in that GB team? For some reason they're all English, but the BBC have assured me with their coverage that they're representing the whole of Britain. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 France are sh1t to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: France are sh1t to watch. Most of the "big" teams have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: The top man should be the ref only, That's still the case. The clue's in the name Video Assistant Referee. Anyway we've had a 0-0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Anyway we've had a 0-0! What a shocking game. Seems both France and Denmark were happy for a 0-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That game was painful. Tedious. I think var needs to be given time. Most of the var decisions have been correct and the team affected has got justice. If the ref still can't make the correct decision with var then that surely is a ref problem. Would like to see retrospective punishment now for acting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The pundits don't seem to like it. In danger of cleaning the game up slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: Here are the potential round of sixteen matches. Germany failing to win their group will likely see them play Brazil in the knockout round - giving them a very tough path to the final. Great Britain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, kumnio said: Great Britain? It's a joke referencing the BBC's coverage seemingly thinking that the whole UK is England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, phart said: What's more important the flow of the game or the sanctity of the result, you always have to balance those. They go hand in hand. A challenge system is open to abuse by parties with a vested interest. A system controlled by the officials is infinitely preferable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 50 minutes ago, ShedTA said: I think var needs to be given time. Most of the var decisions have been correct and the team affected has got justice. If the ref still can't make the correct decision with var then that surely is a ref problem. Totally agree. You always got at least a couple of World Cup games ruined by a shite referee. That'll still happen with VAR being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Argentina lead Nigeria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Those two touches from Messi for the goal were utterly outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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