ProudScot Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: O'Donnell is way ahead of Findlay in the pecking order for a call up IMO, and he was totally ignored event though we're crying out for a right back, so Findlay has no chance! I hear you and O’Donnell is more worthy than Stevenson that’s for sure. I like the look of Findlay though so wouldn’t have been against his inclusion. Agree with your post about Celtic also & comments from idiots like Scott Brown don’t help our cause either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I'm trying to understand which Celtic players are really missing. Gordon - we know what he can do Griffiths - he's a miss Tierney - a miss but can understand giving him a break Forrest - is he really a miss for Scotland? McGregor - possibly a miss but we're reasonably catered for there with others in the squad Had we been heading to Russia I'd imagine most of the above would be on the plane plus Brown. But we're not so we need to use this opportunity to look at other players. It is what friendlies are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 It's also a chance for the coaching staff to see new players in training too. Not all about the game at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Not playing to any gallery.....only pathetic thing is how little some players give a shit about playing for Scotland. Can be rest assured that had Darren Fletcher been called up when he was at Utd, then he'd have been on the plane no questions asked. Take your Celtic blinkers off for one second. Don't expect him to take the blinkers off, he isn't capable. he thinks its all about celtic. He doesn't understand that we actually want their players on the plane because we want our best to be playing for scotland. I made the mistake of adding mclean and Mgeouch but the point still stands, he glosses over this buy picking tiny holes in arguments to prove his point. No way should Celtic receive any special treatment here. Edited May 15, 2018 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, andyD said: I hear you, but at the same time.. these are two utterly ridiculous friendlies. We're going to get soundly beaten in both games, likely see very little of the ball and it'll all be a bit dispiriting and a waste of time overall. It's very different to had we qualified. Like it or not, Celtic's progression in the champions league qualification is important to Scottish football. It helps the brand, and that gets more money in that goes to everyone, and a decent amount goes into developing young Scottish players. So it's weighing up priorities really. To suggest we're f'd because James Forrest isn't going to play Mexico seems a bit of an oversimplification. McLeish picking slightly weird squads and not being a particularly good manager are probably top of the list. 1. Imagine we took our best across there, tried out best and won.......................sounds better to me 2. Please explain how celtic being the CL benefits anyone other than Celitc? Celtic getting more CL cash only reinforces their dominance and destroys domestic competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: 1. Imagine we took our best across there, tried out best and won.......................sounds better to me 2. Please explain how celtic being the CL benefits anyone other than Celitc? Celtic getting more CL cash only reinforces their dominance and destroys domestic competition. Last time Celtic got to the group stages every other premiership club got a windfall of 100 odd grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Rab The Crab said: Last time Celtic got to the group stages every other premiership club got a windfall of 100 odd grand. Wow, that'll help domestic competition. Mon the sellick Apologies for the sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Wow, that'll help domestic competition. Mon the sellick Apologies for the sarcasm Don’t need to apologise mate, I’m not an old firm fan but for a lot of clubs that’s a players wage for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Wow, that'll help domestic competition. Mon the sellick Apologies for the sarcasm Them progressing also helps the league's coefficient.. so more teams can get access to europe and get money for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Don't expect him to take the blinkers off, he isn't capable. he thinks its all about celtic. He doesn't understand that we actually want their players on the plane because we want our best to be playing for scotland. I made the mistake of adding mclean and Mgeouch but the point still stands, he glosses over this buy picking tiny holes in arguments to prove his point. No way should Celtic receive any special treatment here. Aye its all about the Celtic for me.... that's why I've spent thousands following Scotland all over the place since the late 80's. 😏 You made a mistake because you couldn't wait to have another pop at Celtic. If it's not the club, it's players or the manager. Obsessed much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Imagine paying £88 to go and watch John Souttar 🤣 Credit where credits due though, At least he’ll make the effort to turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, DoonTheSlope said: Imagine paying £88 to go and watch John Souttar 🤣 Credit where credits due though, At least he’ll make the effort to turn up I'll see that and raise you Lewis Stevenson. Anyone else see him blowing out the cheeks of his arse at 2 of Rangers goals on Sunday? 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, slasher said: I'll see that and raise you Lewis Stevenson. Anyone else see him blowing out the cheeks of his arse at 2 of Rangers goals on Sunday? 😱 Anybody see the assists he’s provided this season, two off the top my head from Sunday for a start The guys knackered, he plays almost every single game which is why he’s racked up over 400 appearances in his time but he won’t pull out of the squad as it’s “too far” or “needs a rest” Fingers crosses he’ll be playing European football in July too, as will the travel sick, tired, European qualifying bound Celtc players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: I hear you and O’Donnell is more worthy than Stevenson that’s for sure. I like the look of Findlay though so wouldn’t have been against his inclusion. Agree with your post about Celtic also & comments from idiots like Scott Brown don’t help our cause either. Yeah, Finlay has had an excellent season and I think he could be one for the future. I only mentioned O'Donnell as he's been outstanding and never got a look in/ I'm guessing mainly cos he doesn't play for a big team as if he did he'd be in the squad given he's a right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Anybody see the assists he’s provided this season, two off the top my head from Sunday for a start The guys knackered, he plays almost every single game which is why he’s racked up over 400 appearances in his time but he won’t pull out of the squad as it’s “too far” or “needs a rest” Fingers crosses he’ll be playing European football in July too, as will the travel sick, tired, European qualifying bound Celtc players He's knackered? 😂😂😂😂😂 He's played 16 games less than Kieran Tierney this season lol Edited May 15, 2018 by slasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 hours ago, slasher said: I haven't any on. I do think however any club being asked to provide up to 7 first team players for end of season friendlies who also have Euro qualifiers in July deserve some consideration. Doesn't stop them going on their jollys in between league games to Tenerife though does it! Certainly weren't doing much relaxing over there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, slasher said: He's knackered? 😂😂😂😂😂 He's played 16 games less than Kieran Tierney this season lol That’ll be Kieran Teirney the biggest myth in Scottish football edit: at risk of sounding pedantic, Kieran Tierney hardly “played” he was on the pitch in European games, as shown by results Edited May 15, 2018 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: That’ll be Kieran Teirney the biggest myth in Scottish football You cracked than yin earlier remember? Why not try some of your pishy patter straight out an Irvine Welsh novel, that usually works better for you. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, slasher said: You cracked than yin earlier remember? Why not try some of your pishy patter straight out an Irvine Welsh novel, that usually works better for you. 👍 Not cracking anything, just stating facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: That’ll be Kieran Teirney the biggest myth in Scottish football edit: at risk of sounding pedantic, Kieran Tierney hardly “played” he was on the pitch in European games, as shown by results You're a bitter fella, aint you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, andyD said: Them progressing also helps the league's coefficient.. so more teams can get access to europe and get money for that. Didn't they get rid of country coeffiicient and its no based on individual performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Didn't they get rid of country coeffiicient and its no based on individual performance? no afaik.. http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=sco/uefarankings/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, andyD said: no afaik.. http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=sco/uefarankings/index.html something changed last season, I can't remember what. More than likely something to benefit the big four nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I've been hearing this co-efficient bullshit for years and years...an enhanced co-efficient is of no real use to any team other than Celtic (or Rangers if they ever get their act together). Allowing Celtic players to dodge the draft, sets a dangerous precedent. That club gets positive discrimination at every fucking turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Rab The Crab said: Don’t need to apologise mate, I’m not an old firm fan but for a lot of clubs that’s a players wage for the season. in the grand scheme of things it doesn't make a difference to the outcome. Id' rather Celtic lost the CL cash every year so the gap was less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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