ParisInAKilt Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Britain good. Russia bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The way it's been handled is a disgrace. I’m glad I saw the comments on this thread, i thought I was going mad. Corbyn is asking for due process and the government and media are black balling him. It’s like a police state with the Salem witch trials thrown in for good measure. Macron has already called May’s actions “fantasy politics” but try finding a reference to it on the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think there is to much coincidence and out in the open about this to be at a Governmental level in Russia (ie I do not think this goes all the way up to Putin) but at a much lower level with probably more a ex-foe or someone trying to get in to Putin's good books about it (with it being ex-KGB/FSB bound to make a few enemies along the way). Right amount of money/influence in that part of the word can get your hands on anything, but the question is how could they get such a substance into the UK undetected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 15 hours ago, kumnio said: This is probably a bit cynical, but if you spy against your own country, youre kinda asking for this to happen to you. I havent read much about this story, but Im guessing he was paid by the British intelligence services for info, he was happy and willing to take the money, now comes the payback. The people who do this, must know the risks. thats my take, his "activites" would no doubt have spilt russian blood what goes around comes around (for him not his daughter obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, dan cake said: thats my take, his "activites" would no doubt have spilt russian blood what goes around comes around (for him not his daughter obviously) Perhaps so, but it’s the response by our institutions which worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: The way it's been handled is a disgrace. I’m glad I saw the comments on this thread, i thought I was going mad. Corbyn is asking for due process and the government and media are black balling him. It’s like a police state with the Salem witch trials thrown in for good measure. Macron has already called May’s actions “fantasy politics” but try finding a reference to it on the BBC. Do you have a link for the Macron quote? I'm not calling it into question but just that the BBC News have just said that Macron agrees with May and will be outlining his own actions in the coming days. So something doesn't add up. And why on earth has someone attached daffodils to the police line, jeez oh. BTW, I've been in the pub they were in. Edited March 15, 2018 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, aaid said: Do you have a link for the Macron quote? I'm not calling it into question but just that the BBC News have just said that Macron agrees with May and will be outlining his own actions in the coming days. So something doesn't add up. And why on earth has someone attached daffodils to the police line, jeez oh. BTW, I've been in the pub they were in. Hope you've washed yer clothes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Grim Jim said: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-indeed-another-iraqi-wmd-scam/ interesting input Defo makes interesting reading. As someone who is skeptical about what went down with the alexander litvinenko poisoning I was wondering about this too. If you do a deep dive on the public inquiry there is contesting evidence from experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, mariokempes56 said: Hope you've washed yer clothes.. It was about 5 years ago. Nice place, converted mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 With all the complaints from the Western media about Russia getting involved in Western internal politics: https://www.rt.com/politics/421368-they-are-trying-to-persuade/ It's only bad when it happens to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, aaid said: Do you have a link for the Macron quote? I'm not calling it into question but just that the BBC News have just said that Macron agrees with May and will be outlining his own actions in the coming days. So something doesn't add up. And why on earth has someone attached daffodils to the police line, jeez oh. BTW, I've been in the pub they were in. It was in The Times but they’ve pulled it and done a complete 180. RT unsurprisingly has it though : https://www.rt.com/uk/421355-macron-may-russia-blame/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, er yir macaroon said: It was in The Times but they’ve pulled it and done a complete 180. RT unsurprisingly has it though : https://www.rt.com/uk/421355-macron-may-russia-blame/ You're telling me that the "Kremlin's propaganda network" actually fact checks their work and is more accurate than the London media as a result. BBC still running their main story as allies (France, Germany and USA) condemn attack and blame Russia, despite evidence that the French aren't (currently) blaming Russia for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well, going by their joint ataement, it appears that the French are condemning Russia now also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Looks like the French position has shifted on the basis of the evidence being shared with them. https://uk.ambafrance.org/France-shares-UK-explanation-of-Salisbury-attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'd like to see this evidence cause in the alexander litvinenko the same claim was made. However if you go into the evidence you'll see that "A1" evidence states that the Polonium could come from other reactors. They then brought in another physicist who said it while he agrees with A1 and has great respect for her, he thinks it must defo be Russia. The judge then runs with the new physicists interpretation as opposed to the expert witness they are using for everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 BBC new now saying they are taking away the Police officers car in case its contaminated ??? EH? Surely he didn't drive home before becoming seriously ill ? (and if so why has it taken this long ?) This stinks to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, mariokempes56 said: BBC new now saying they are taking away the Police officers car in case its contaminated ??? EH? Surely he didn't drive home before becoming seriously ill ? (and if so why has it taken this long ?) This stinks to hell. All this stuff is just for show, to show how dangerous the threat is and how serious the government are taking it. The sad thing is a log of people will be taken in by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Is that Tory MP (or MSP?) linesman going to Russia? 😬 ⚠️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) England say they wont be sending any dignataries to the World Cup Well thats the Russians telt. Nice to see May, Johnson, Hammond etc showing that Bulldog/Dunkirk spirit Edited March 15, 2018 by Jim Beem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Lembit Opik was debating Russia Today with that utter bawbag Alex Massie on Radio Scotland this morning. Opik tore him a new one, although I'm sure Massie and his Massi[v]e ego won't see it that way. Massie's argument was that RT is the propaganda arm of the Russian state and Opik and Salmond were being used by appearing on it. At least we have the BBC he was arguing. Until Opik came back to say he was shut down by the BBC when he opposed the Iraq War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stapes said: Lembit Opik was debating Russia Today with that utter bawbag Alex Massie on Radio Scotland this morning. Opik tore him a new one, although I'm sure Massie and his Massi[v]e ego won't see it that way. Massie's argument was that RT is the propaganda arm of the Russian state and Opik and Salmond were being used by appearing on it. At least we have the BBC he was arguing. Until Opik came back to say he was shut down by the BBC when he opposed the Iraq War. It's rich to have the BBC complaining about RT being an arm of the Russian state, when it's an arm of the British state itself. But Russia bad, Britain good obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: It's rich to have the BBC complaining about RT being an arm of the Russian state, when it's an arm of the British state itself. But Russia bad, Britain good obviously. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, Stapes said: Lembit Opik was debating Russia Today with that utter bawbag Alex Massie on Radio Scotland this morning. Opik tore him a new one, although I'm sure Massie and his Massi[v]e ego won't see it that way. Massie's argument was that RT is the propaganda arm of the Russian state and Opik and Salmond were being used by appearing on it. At least we have the BBC he was arguing. Until Opik came back to say he was shut down by the BBC when he opposed the Iraq War. To be correct, Massie's argument was "Look, I just don't like Alex Salmond, okay" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 And in other not related or contrived news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43419809 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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