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1 hour ago, daviebee said:

:lol:  WTF?  Coded threat?  Don't be fkin daft.  We're all Scotland fans on here so I try not to be rude to anyone but FFS...

Who exactly are these people who should be getting their just desserts then?

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7 minutes ago, aaid said:

Who exactly are these people who should be getting their just desserts then?

I thought it would've been obvious - the ones who colluded in trying to send an innocent man to jail.  (NOT any posters on this thread if that's how you interpreted it.)

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3 minutes ago, daviebee said:

I thought it would've been obvious - the ones who colluded in trying to send an innocent man to jail.  (NOT any posters on this thread if that's how you interpreted it.)

Fair enough.

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Laughable viewing on Question Time last night.

Why Laughable? It was the aeriated nature of the vast majority of English question askers about the topic of Scotland having a mandate for IndyRef2. FFS what the actual fuck has it to do with them? They should all take a long, hard look at themselves in the mirror this morning. They came across as a herd of dictators. Credit the journalist of strong Labour persuasion on the panel for speaking his mind and hitting the nail on the head though.

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1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Laughable viewing on Question Time last night.

Why Laughable? It was the aeriated nature of the vast majority of English question askers about the topic of Scotland having a mandate for IndyRef2. FFS what the actual fuck has it to do with them? They should all take a long, hard look at themselves in the mirror this morning. They came across as a herd of dictators. Credit the journalist of strong Labour persuasion on the panel for speaking his mind and hitting the nail on the head though.

Paul Mason was the only one who gave a reasonable response.  The rest were just the same old tired cliches, trying to imply that people didn't want a referendum or that there was no mandate.  Basically sit down and eat your cereal levels of casual scot-bashing.

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51 minutes ago, Alibi said:

Paul Mason was the only one who gave a reasonable response.  The rest were just the same old tired cliches, trying to imply that people didn't want a referendum or that there was no mandate.  Basically sit down and eat your cereal levels of casual scot-bashing.

The most cringeworthy one was the arsehole with the tired old tripe about how is it going to survive on its own pish. Eh a bit like Ireland since escaping the clutches of the union a century ago. And like other countries of equal or smaller size than Scotland (population-wise) such as Norway who survive even though they are no in the EU. As I see it the only way Scotland would not survive on its own is if the union set a poisonous and crippling divorce deal with us and not because we are too wee, too poor or too thick. 

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Question Time last night was quite cringeworthy right enough, though Kate Forbes handled herself quite well I thought. Paul Mason had some decent things to say but couldn't resist a very descriptive dig at Tories/Tory Voters which isn't going to convince them to come back to Labour south of the border. Lisa Nandy also says some decent things from a Labour perspective but gets the Independence aspect totally wrong. Interesting also to hear the viewer talk about the previous 'divisive' referendum when it was generally well-debated without any trouble.

Don't understand why there is a great fuss over Scotland wanting to be self-determining and why that would be detrimental to the UK when they always seem to bleat on about how Scotland is subsidised by Westminster - unless they see it as a threat? There are bound to be some teething issues if/when it comes about. It is also quite a gamble by Sturgeon because if she loses the referendum a second time it will be very difficult for anything to change in our lifetimes. It will need some carefully thought out preparation and protection to ensure it is carried out fairly.

With Michelle Dewberry also on the panel as a basic advert for the upcoming pseudo-fascist movement and new channel GB News it all made for pantomime type viewing last night - for once Fiona Bruce was kept pretty quiet.

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10 minutes ago, gkm_vancouver said:

Question Time last night was quite cringeworthy right enough, though Kate Forbes handled herself quite well I thought. Paul Mason had some decent things to say but couldn't resist a very descriptive dig at Tories/Tory Voters which isn't going to convince them to come back to Labour south of the border. Lisa Nandy also says some decent things from a Labour perspective but gets the Independence aspect totally wrong. Interesting also to hear the viewer talk about the previous 'divisive' referendum when it was generally well-debated without any trouble.

Don't understand why there is a great fuss over Scotland wanting to be self-determining and why that would be detrimental to the UK when they always seem to bleat on about how Scotland is subsidised by Westminster - unless they see it as a threat? There are bound to be some teething issues if/when it comes about. It is also quite a gamble by Sturgeon because if she loses the referendum a second time it will be very difficult for anything to change in our lifetimes. It will need some carefully thought out preparation and protection to ensure it is carried out fairly.

With Michelle Dewberry also on the panel as a basic advert for the upcoming pseudo-fascist movement and new channel GB News it all made for pantomime type viewing last night - for once Fiona Bruce was kept pretty quiet.

Agreed.

And yet again we got the usual delusion from the Tory MP remarking that not every SNP voter supports independence with no remark to the same in reverse. It boils my piss. I am 90% certain there are more people in the election that voted for unionist parties that support independence than vote SNP who don't support independence.

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There was some really stunning footage yesterday, but the BBC didn't seem to want to show it?

No questions on that topic, and none on Israel-Palestine either. 

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The views of Scottish independence on QT were like a rerun of 2014 in all its ghastly flavours. Why you wouldn't want it, why you shouldn't get it, why you couldn't have it, why you shan't have it. 

On "Any Answers" a couple of weeks ago, the audience was angry, as if to say "how very dare they?"

Two angry men complained is was "the tail wagging the dog" - it was 'undemocratic' for only 8% of 'the country' to 'dictate' to the other 92% the fate of the UK.

And last night on QT, a smug disdainful lady got it down to 2% (or was it 2.5%) by dividing the number further, since only half the voters voted for independence parties, and only half the electorate voted. That 2% could be a mandate to break up the UK was obviously not democratic at all... 

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21 hours ago, exile said:

 

And last night on QT, a smug disdainful lady got it down to 2% (or was it 2.5%) by dividing the number further, since only half the voters voted for independence parties, and only half the electorate voted. That 2% could be a mandate to break up the UK was obviously not democratic at all... 

Yes I know the woman you speak of and also added in Scotland could not survive on its own (or words to that effect). The only one who hauled her up was the journalist telling her that it had nothing to do with her or others - it is a matter for Scots alone. I was gobsmacked because at that point the camera panned to the screens with audience on it to see people shaking their heads. Sums up the democracy of the union in one screengrab.

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