kumnio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 You have to wonder about peoples decision making. Inviting him onto QT last week was asking for trouble, do the producers not realise that twitter, facebook etc exist? The need for balance is understandable and reasonable, however, whenever Ive watched it recently, its been far from balanced, the audience tend to be white middle aged foaming at the mouth rabid English/British nationalists who despise the EU, despise 48% of people etc etc If they want a right wing reactionary wankfest, then fine, but dont pretend to be balanced, neutral or unbiased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kumnio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Death threats my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, kumnio said: You have to wonder about peoples decision making. Inviting him onto QT last week was asking for trouble, do the producers not realise that twitter, facebook etc exist? The need for balance is understandable and reasonable, however, whenever Ive watched it recently, its been far from balanced, the audience tend to be white middle aged foaming at the mouth rabid English/British nationalists who despise the EU, despise 48% of people etc etc If they want a right wing reactionary wankfest, then fine, but dont pretend to be balanced, neutral or unbiased. Hating the EU is right wing? Maybe that’s the angle QT is going for ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 In the context of QT audiences, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, kumnio said: In the context of QT audiences, yes. Probably deliberate on the part of the producers. The BBC is overwhelmingly left wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 As I have stated on this thread before, the BBC is left wing, and pro EU, QT is the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This whole BBC is left wing is a myth It maybe used to be but not anymore https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-paves-way-for-shake-up-of-the-bbc-as-licence-fee-critic-john-whittingdale-joins-all-10242779.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: This whole BBC is left wing is a myth It maybe used to be but not anymore https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-paves-way-for-shake-up-of-the-bbc-as-licence-fee-critic-john-whittingdale-joins-all-10242779.html Its content suggest it’s not a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Its content suggest it’s not a myth. What content is that ? Kate Andrews being on it every week Nick Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: What content is that ? Kate Andrews being on it every week Nick Robinson Having conservative pundits / commentators doesn’t make the bbc right wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Having conservative pundits / commentators doesn’t make the bbc right wing It certainly doesnt make it left wing Neither does this Edited February 13, 2019 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Historically the BBC was editorially biased left of centre, there was a particular long running conflict with the Tories during the 80s that I recall. These days the government of the day seem to have a much greater say over political output... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jun/08/does-the-government-want-the-bbc-to-be-a-state-broadcaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Remember PIAK stated that AOC is a "communist" That's your term of reference when arguing that the BBC is not left wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Remember PIAK stated that AOC is a "communist" That's your term of reference when arguing that the BBC is not left wing She can be a communist and the BBC can be left wing. Both are liars as well 😀 Think people still see left wing as being good and right wing as being bad. I know I did. Edited February 13, 2019 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The BBC hasn't been the same since Campbell Blair and Mandelson fucked it over during Iraq War and Dr Kelly (as a side note the journalist who helped bring Saville to light "Miles Goslett" has wrote a book about Kelly a very interesting read called an Inconvenient Death) It certainly isn't Left-Wing as i understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The BEEB is only left-wing in a luvvies concept of what left might mean. Precious Londoners caring for others ..aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The BBC is so left wing they are positioned just to the right of Genghis Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aaid Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: It was noticeable at the time that there'd been an edit. I assumed it was because of an obscenity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 hours ago, aaid said: It was noticeable at the time that there'd been an edit. I assumed it was because of an obscenity. Turns out it was because BBC's favourite unionist proceeded to talk over Hyslop, about Salmond, and so they couldn't broadcast it. But of course they left in his full rant uninterrupted, and broadcast it all over Twitter. So there are questions about right to reply and whether it was fair to leave the impression that Hyslop had almost nothing in response. https://www.thenational.scot/news/17430795.revealed-question-time-secretly-edited-snp-answer-to-unionist-plant/ Actually more damning than that is that on an audience question about (i.e. against) independence, apparently there were 9 questions from the audience, and only one was from a Yes voter. Across the programme as a whole, unionist audience members were given over 3 minutes, while pro-indy voices from the audience were given less than a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I saw that he'd shouted stuff about Salmond and if that's the case you can understand why the BBC edited it as broadcasting it would be a contempt of court. However, they probably should have cut his - Billy Mitchell - whole piece in the interests of balance. It further calls into question the question to invite him - this isn't some random guy that's unknown to the producers - in the first place and also why he wasn't removed at that point from the audience. Someone at Mentorn needs to get their jotters over this, won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 hours ago, aaid said: It was noticeable at the time that there'd been an edit. I assumed it was because of an obscenity. It was also noticeable to anyone with an ounce of awareness that the guy was an aggressive bell end, likely to explode at anytime. But they chose to let him speak, leave in the only part of his sermon that had any control, and remove the response. As you have said in your next post, the entire question should have been cut for balance. The programme is a pantomime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: It was also noticeable to anyone with an ounce of awareness that the guy was an aggressive bell end, likely to explode at anytime. But they chose to let him speak, leave in the only part of his sermon that had any control, and remove the response. As you have said in your next post, the entire question should have been cut for balance. The programme is a pantomime. And in any case haven't we heard his anti-SNP rhetoric time and time again. Jeez why don't they just give him his own show and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, aaid said: I saw that he'd shouted stuff about Salmond and if that's the case you can understand why the BBC edited it as broadcasting it would be a contempt of court. However, they probably should have cut his - Billy Mitchell - whole piece in the interests of balance. It further calls into question the question to invite him - this isn't some random guy that's unknown to the producers - in the first place and also why he wasn't removed at that point from the audience. Someone at Mentorn needs to get their jotters over this, won't happen though. We have the answers though. You provided the link about the "producer" who is clearly a far right idealist. Then you have Billy saying he was invited to give a voice. He was basically subcontracted in to do a job on question time. Imagine he was dragged out, shouting you invited me here in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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