adamntg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 It's sad but it's true. Anyway, McKinnon's arse is oot the windae and rightly so after two of the most adject performances endured by supporters in many the long year (well, since that 3-1 cuffing at home to Hamilton Accies just before relegation in 2016). I'll tell you how bad it is - John Hughes is apparently the front runner and I'm thinking "maybe that would be ok". That's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Modern football - 2 bad showings = a manager getting binned. I remember when the UK media used to rip the pish out of Spanish/Italian clubs for stuff like this back in the day. Now it is normal in the EPL and is sadly spreading into all levels of domestic football on this island. Obviously you are way more qualified to comment on the Dundee Utd situation than I am but I just think this is an example of the madness of modern football. I hate modern football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 hours ago, morrie21 said: Modern football - 2 bad showings = a manager getting binned. I remember when the UK media used to rip the pish out of Spanish/Italian clubs for stuff like this back in the day. Now it is normal in the EPL and is sadly spreading into all levels of domestic football on this island. Obviously you are way more qualified to comment on the Dundee Utd situation than I am but I just think this is an example of the madness of modern football. I hate modern football It's not just two bad showings though. I'm usually the last to think the manager should go (and I probably am here as well) but bar two games this season United have been awful. Another season in the nether reaches is unthinkable so panic button pushed. I do agree with your point in general though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Sorry my fault, I had them on my coupon on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 One of the best Raith managers we've had since I started supporting them in 1987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Has he actually been sacked yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 38 minutes ago, kumnio said: Has he actually been sacked yet? Think so but not seen any announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Tbf it's not just the results the football has been awful. Still to cheer us all up Kris void has just said the club's whole predicament is down to Thompson's stance 're the old rangers. That cheered me up. What a twat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, ShedTA said: Think so but not seen any announcement. Agreed, but not signed seemingly, Tomorrow am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black'n'tan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 23 hours ago, morrie21 said: Modern football - 2 bad showings = a manager getting binned. I remember when the UK media used to rip the pish out of Spanish/Italian clubs for stuff like this back in the day. Now it is normal in the EPL and is sadly spreading into all levels of domestic football on this island. Obviously you are way more qualified to comment on the Dundee Utd situation than I am but I just think this is an example of the madness of modern football. I hate modern football Unfortunately most of his 70+ games have been generally between dire and shocking on the scale. the triple whammy subbie on Saturday summed him up Murdoch for mcmullan with Toshney to ch and Durnan shoved up front......feckin clueless decisions .....and at 2-0 down ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 12 hours ago, kumnio said: Has he actually been sacked yet? Maybe it's like Milton in Office Space? They don't sack him, just move him to the basement, stop his wages and wait for nature to take its course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostZapper Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I understand why he did it but McKinnon made a mistake moving from Raith to United. Everyone lost out sadly! Raith lost because we lost a manager who was taking us places (and ended up with the Hughes/Locke duo that relegated us) and McKinnon could easily have kept taking Rovers forward - he had the nucleus of a really good squad. None the less - I understand why he did it, but wonder if he regrets it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just confirmed on SSN that Mckinnon has been sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 23/10/2017 at 7:16 AM, adamntg said: It's not just two bad showings though. I'm usually the last to think the manager should go (and I probably am here as well) but bar two games this season United have been awful. Another season in the nether reaches is unthinkable so panic button pushed. I do agree with your point in general though. To be honest I just looked at the league and noticed you were in the playoff places, that was the basis for my posting. You attend the games and therefore have a far better perspective on the Dundee Utd situation than I do. Just noticed there he has officially gone now, any idea who they will look to bring in now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I would think that John Hughes is one of the favourites, as they tried to nick him from ICT when he was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostZapper Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, jailender said: I would think that John Hughes is one of the favourites, as they tried to nick him from ICT when he was there. He was brutal at Raith. took us from 6th to 9th to relegation in the playoffs. He didn't have a clue on his best team, played players out of position, and couldn't get the players up for the big matches at the end of the season. He made a total arse of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I didn't say I thought he would be a good choice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I’d feel sorry for Utd fans if yogi was appointed, he is brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, kumnio said: I’d feel sorry for Utd fans if yogi was appointed, he is brutal. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Mark McGhee is available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Cove_Sheep said: Mark McGhee is available... Just-three-points McGhee. Bleurgh I’d be happy with any of Jon Daly, Billy McKinlay, Christian Dailly or Duncan Ferguson. We haven’t given anyone their first managerial job since Jim McLean so I think it’s time. In fact, how about a Dailly/Dunc dream team? I remember just about the only game they played up front for Utd in front of 1500 at Love Street and we thought we’d seen the future. It’s gonna be “Yogi” isn’t it? He can’t even speak properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) to be honest Utd are a bit of a poisoned chalice - had a few wins in 80/90's but never managed to keep it constant Macnamara being a recent disaster who was doing OK with us at Firhill before moving and now McKinnon jumping ship from Raith - I'd reckon they both regret moving but can't blame them if the money was better Yogi hughes - ffs good luck with that if it happens! Edited October 24, 2017 by Topcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I think you should stay away from the ex player thing, you’ve had so many disasters with them recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, kumnio said: I think you should stay away from the ex player thing, you’ve had so many disasters with them recently. Sturrock was a bad one when he left us. Not nice to see one of any club’s best suffer like that. Unless of course it’s Ally McCoist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Topcat said: to be honest Utd are a bit of a poisoned chalice - had a few wins in 80/90's but never managed to keep it constant Macnamara being a recent disaster who was doing OK with us at Firhill before moving and now McKinnon jumping ship from Raith - I'd reckon they both regret moving but can't blame them if the money was better Yogi hughes - ffs good luck with that if it happens! No this one again! 17 consecutive top five finishes from 1976 - 1993, 14 European qualifications, 11 cup finals. If that's not constant I don't know what is. And until relegation last year United had eight consecutive top six finishes and five cup finals in ten years. Mcnamara had a couple of great seasons at United when he arrived, finished 4th and 5th and another two cup finals. Some of the football played in 2013/14 with Gauld, Armstrong, Robertson, GMS and Ciftci was the best we've seen at Tannadice since those "few wins" in the eighties. There was a spell through Nov/Dec 2013 where United scored at least four goals in five consecutive games. 11 times that season they scored four or more in a game and 18 times they scored at least three. Of course, modern football being what it is it could never last and all the stars were sold, but JM was on a cut of the £12m+ they raised in transfer fees so he'll have done ok out of it. His problem was that he couldn't recover from the insane decision to sell Armstrong and GMS in January 2015 while the club were a couple of points off top of the league and about to play Celtic in another cup final. That ripped the heart out of the club, the players downed and it's all been one way since that fateful day. It's going to be difficult to get out of the Championship, but United are still the sixth biggest club in the country and as such I would hope it was an attractive enough job that we don't have to settle for Yogi feckin' Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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