Chripper Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Silly me. Engaging with a UKip supporter. Moment of weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Chripper said: If he has a Scottish parent/grand parent, sure. that's fine then. We are in agreement. Can also play for us if they grew up in Scotland. Swap the word "Scotland" for any other country btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Chripper said: Silly me. Engaging with a UKip supporter. Moment of weakness. Nothing to do with UKIP this one mate. Simply talking about what players are, and are not, allowed to play for Scotland under the current rules. My point is that should be extended to managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Anyway. Back to topic. I'm afraid the topic is moot as odds are that the SFA will run down McLeish's contract. I think he has another year to go. The SFA are playing a dangerous game with this one. By keeping Alex McLeish they're pretty much playing chicken with the Tartan Army. Hopefully the fans will stay away from Hampden will change is promised. As for the next manager, I'd accept the best person for the job, no matter their colour, gender or nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chripper said: Anyway. Back to topic. I'm afraid the topic is moot as odds are that the SFA will run down McLeish's contract. I think he has another year to go. The SFA are playing a dangerous game with this one. By keeping Alex McLeish they're pretty much playing chicken with the Tartan Army. Hopefully the fans will stay away from Hampden will change is promised. As for the next manager, I'd accept the best person for the job, no matter their colour, gender or nationality. me too but I would prefer an ex Scottish player if had to choose. And i'm not afraid to offend the snowflakes. Edited April 10, 2019 by bonny78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, bonny78 said: this is not racist. If you look at the reaction when we appointed Berti Vogts a lot of people were opposed to it because they wanted to remain with a Scottish manager. You're right. It's not. If your reasoning for the opinion is that you couldn't have a foreign player playing for you (within reason, obviously) then it's a fair enough one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tartan_McCole said: You're right. It's not. If your reasoning for the opinion is that you couldn't have a foreign player playing for you (within reason, obviously) then it's a fair enough one at that. yes that is my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, tartanmartin said: he has coached in the men's game (assistant and caretaker). other examples then are Corinne Diacre, Scott Booth or Shelley Kerr. it works both ways - a success in one code may not enjoy the same levels in the other. and vice versa is also true. True enough.. but you can naturally expand that to "success at one club or nation does not mean you'll enjoy success at another" At which point the whole discussion becomes a bit pointless Neil Lennon's one example.. 3 consecutive titles for Celtic. Moved to Bolton and I'm not sure he won 3 consecutive games in 2 years. Mourinho's another.. One of the best managers in the world after Ferguson, and probably the most adaptable. Won the league in Portugal, Spain, Italy and England. 2 Champions Leagues, a trophy cabinet bigger than the average house and handled some of the biggest names in the world: Modric, Ronaldo, Figo, Lamard, Drogba, Zanetti, Eto'o, Ballack, Hazard, Makelele, Benzema, Essien, Marcelo. Mourinho's 'best 11' is a properly good side and he's handled a lot of massive ego's along the way. Yet, at Man Utd he couldn't do it. Couldn't win the league and ultimately being unable to handle one stroppy Frenchman consigned his tenure to failure. Still, he'll probably go to Germany, win the league and maybe another Champions League. So every appointment's a risk. Nothing is a guarantee of success. Shelley Kerr has a UEFA Pro license, and she's been successful with an international football team. In the men's game she managed at a low level, but was successful there as well. Qualified the women for their first World Cup, and while there's 2 top teams in the group, they just beat Brazil, who are a top team themselves. Her appointment as head coach of the men's side would make a lot more sense than McLeish's appointment did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, bonny78 said: yes that is my point. I always thought your point was "Craig Gordon.. BOOOOOO!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, andyD said: I always thought your point was "Craig Gordon.. BOOOOOO!!!!" that was one of my points. but.... between 2004 - 2015 approx it was Gordon YESSSSSSS. good save my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Steve Clarke linked with Fulham job for next season. Also might be a contender for Preston as seems Alex Neil is leaving for West Brom after they play each other on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Dick and Iain Campbell dream team. Get them in now before some big club from down south snaps them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 4:25 PM, bonny78 said: me too but I would prefer an ex Scottish player if had to choose. And i'm not afraid to offend the snowflakes. "An ex-Scottish player"? You mean someone who used to be Scottish and then changed their nationality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: "An ex-Scottish player"? You mean someone who used to be Scottish and then changed their nationality? nope silly. Someone who played for us as recently as this century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, bonny78 said: nope silly. Someone who played for us as recently as this century. A 19 year old coach? Ballsy 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, todd said: A 19 year old coach? Ballsy 😆 lol. i said someone who played for us this century not was born this century 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, bonny78 said: lol. i said someone who played for us this century not was born this century 🙂 So you did 😔I really need to start reading things properly 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 19 hours ago, Third Lanark said: "An ex-Scottish player"? You mean someone who used to be Scottish and then changed their nationality? Not sure Brazil or Hansen would be interested to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-need-steve-clarke-boss-14377749 "The former Celtic and Scotland star believes the Kilmarnock manager’s organisation skills set him apart from other candidates in the running to replace the under-fire Alex McLeish whose fate could be sealed at an SFA board meeting on Thursday." Do any of us think they'll actually bin him or will McRae and Petrie save their mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, kwhitelaw said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-need-steve-clarke-boss-14377749 "The former Celtic and Scotland star believes the Kilmarnock manager’s organisation skills set him apart from other candidates in the running to replace the under-fire Alex McLeish whose fate could be sealed at an SFA board meeting on Thursday." Do any of us think they'll actually bin him or will McRae and Petrie save their mate? I just read that. There's no doubt that Clarke should be offered the job. Will McLeish be fired? No. The SFA will let his contract expire and then they'll Appoint Stuart McCall or Scot Gemmill as manager. Edited April 17, 2019 by Chripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kwhitelaw said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-need-steve-clarke-boss-14377749 "The former Celtic and Scotland star believes the Kilmarnock manager’s organisation skills set him apart from other candidates in the running to replace the under-fire Alex McLeish whose fate could be sealed at an SFA board meeting on Thursday." Do any of us think they'll actually bin him or will McRae and Petrie save their mate? I reckon there is next to no chance of McLeish being fired. I fully expect him to be in charge for the next two games at least. Consequently, I also expect the now standard multiple call-offs from his original squad, a sub 30k crowd for the Cyprus game - which, in a footballing sense, I expect to be akin to Lithuania at home in 2016 or Macedonia in 2012 - and for Belgium to put about 4 or 5 past us in Brussels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, scotlad said: and for Belgium to put about 4 or 5 past us in Brussels It could actually be more than 5. It could be 7 or 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Chripper said: It could actually be more than 5. It could be 7 or 8. Indeed! A similar performance to Kazakhstan against a fully fit Belgium side firing on all cylinders gives me the utter fear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, kwhitelaw said: Indeed! A similar performance to Kazakhstan against a fully fit Belgium side firing on all cylinders gives me the utter fear! Thinking about it... imagine it went into double figures. It's possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, scotlad said: I reckon there is next to no chance of McLeish being fired. I fully expect him to be in charge for the next two games at least. Consequently, I also expect the now standard multiple call-offs from his original squad, a sub 30k crowd for the Cyprus game - which, in a footballing sense, I expect to be akin to Lithuania at home in 2016 or Macedonia in 2012 - and for Belgium to put about 4 or 5 past us in Brussels. Sadly I think you're right and I bitterly regret buying the 5-match package. Apparently they'll be discussing the team's "form" tomorrow which means f-all. You're wrong about Belgium though as they'll put at least 7 past the disorganised shambles that'll be in front of them. FFS we thought San Marino could score when they went up the park! We can only hope their minds will be on their summer holidays once the game's safe about 15 minutes in. What a time to be alive and supporting Scotland. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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