jockodile Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Must admit I haven't paid attention to it but in the soul searching last 24 hrs I took a look. In summary is the NL simply just a route to the Euro2020 playoffs that used to be via 3rd place? So using the Euro2016 campaign Germany and Poland would qualify, but nothing for Ireland (or us naturally). World cup 2018 qualifying threw up Italy and Spain in same group, Portugal and Swiss had near perfect campaigns etc. So with that in mind should be get a tough draw could the NL becomes potentially more important than the group itself? Even as insurance? Is this correct? Presume the Euro 2020 playoffs will be seeded and not an open draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, jockodile said: Must admit I haven't paid attention to it but in the soul searching last 24 hrs I took a look. In summary is the NL simply just a route to the Euro2020 playoffs that used to be via 3rd place? So using the Euro2016 campaign Germany and Poland would qualify, but nothing for Ireland (or us naturally). World cup 2018 qualifying threw up Italy and Spain in same group, Portugal and Swiss had near perfect campaigns etc. So with that in mind should be get a tough draw could the NL becomes potentially more important than the group itself? Even as insurance? Is this correct? Presume the Euro 2020 playoffs will be seeded and not an open draw. All spot on. Final paragraph - playoffs would be competed against the other group winners from your own league. So should in theory improve our chances of qualifying in that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 wow that is massive change from the current seeded playoffs. Group D match off between say Lithuania v Cyprus the winner would end up qualifying. we need to take this very seriously before you know it we'll be missing out just on 2nd in the Group due to dropping points against Lithuania, whilst they qualify effortlessly via NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbrew Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 If playoffs are in March 2020 does that mean draw for finals will be 2 or 3 months before tournament or that draw will be made leaving 4 places for playoff winners? Even if we qualify are we likely to play even one match at Hampden? Can`t see how we could be guaranteed even 1 match there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I think the draw is made in December 2019 as normal then the NL winners are then placed in the groups. If we were to qualify I think we would be guaranteed to play 2 of the group game at Hampden. Its set up for us to qualify for the first time in 22 years and all we get is a trip to sunny Glasgow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisland boy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 would surely need to wait until after the play-offs to do the draw. Not just Scotland but other countries that are hosting group games could be involved in the play-offs and think anywhere hosting group games that qualifies is guaranteed two home games in the group stage so UEFA couldn't put teams in groups until they see who finally qualifies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wubbs Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 11:51 AM, bisland boy said: would surely need to wait until after the play-offs to do the draw. Not just Scotland but other countries that are hosting group games could be involved in the play-offs and think anywhere hosting group games that qualifies is guaranteed two home games in the group stage so UEFA couldn't put teams in groups until they see who finally qualifies Yeah, I imagine the draw will be after the play-offs. Could end up with a play-off final between Azerbaijan and Scotland, for example, with both countries having host cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Has anyone got a diagram, as I am utterly confused. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, wubbs said: Yeah, I imagine the draw will be after the play-offs. Could end up with a play-off final between Azerbaijan and Scotland, for example, with both countries having host cities. According to this, the EURO 2020 draw is in early Dec 2019 but the play offs aren't until March 2020. But it also has an "additional Final tournament draw if required". Whatever that means. - on 1st April 2020. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/newsid=2502936.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 One thing I don't think they have thought about is this? The teams that get through the European Nations League via play-oofs (four teams) it kind of lessens a need for them to put 100% into the Euro Qualifiers. What is to stop those pre-qualified teams putting out weakened teams and experimenting and giving an advantage to other teams in their qualifying group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: One thing I don't think they have thought about is this? The teams that get through the European Nations League via play-oofs (four teams) it kind of lessens a need for them to put 100% into the Euro Qualifiers. What is to stop those pre-qualified teams putting out weakened teams and experimenting and giving an advantage to other teams in their qualifying group? Mainly because it would be a mental thing to do. They wont get through the play offs until after the EURO 2020 qualifiers are finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: Mainly because it would be a mental thing to do. They wont get through the play offs until after the EURO 2020 qualifiers are finished. Ah right so play-off of Nations League happen AFTER the Euro Qualifiers. Got you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm 1980 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Having started to have a look at this, come next September we really have got to hit the ground running and win our "mini league" of pool C teams in the 6 games played Sept-Nov. 2018 3 double headers. This is in effect is our route to playoffs in March 2020 when there will be a semi final and final between the pool C winning teams. The regular sections where now only top two qualify start in March 2019 and are over and done by November 2019 ( 10 games in 6 months) all 5 double headers, qualification through this route is going to be a bit of a sprint. On the plus side the pool C teams are all about our level. On the minus side there are loads of double headers and we are hopeless in the second games. Edited October 12, 2017 by Stockholm 1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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