giblet Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Itv4 there just said Scotland are now bottom of 2nd placed teams.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocher Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I see we are currently 9th in 2nd place table. Are we fecked now that Greece are above us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbrew Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Texas Pete said: I think the posted table is from the BBC website and takes everything into consideration. There is an up to date table on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA) Doesn’t really matter now though as far as we are concerned. Win tomorrow and we are guaranteed a playoff. From table it looks like we`ll make playoffs if we win but if we don`t Slovenia or Slovakia will probably be worst second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocher Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 But if every team above us also win we are fecked. Not in our own hands then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, giblet said: Itv4 there just said Scotland are now bottom of 2nd placed teams.. 3 minutes ago, Brocher said: I see we are currently 9th in 2nd place table. Are we fecked now that Greece are above us? Guys we haven't played yet! IF WE WIN WE GET A PLAY OFF PLACE...END OF STORY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrystarfish Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, giblet said: Itv4 there just said Scotland are now bottom of 2nd placed teams.. ITV4 must have a broken calculator. Can't see how they have Bosnia above us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, harrystarfish said: Belarus 1-1 Netherlands too at the moment, game over for them. Think they needed a shit load of goals tonight. If we win tomorrow we will definitely reach the playoffs. This isn’t in question. Slovenia have next to no chance. Slovakia could still do it but they would need a few unlikely results to go their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud1982 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Greece are above us but there last game is against Gibraltar so can't get any more qualifying point. We're on 11 there on 13. If we win were guarenteed a play off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) NO NEED TO PANIC!! If we win we are def in the playoffs. This is because we have already had our 6 points deducted from Malta in the above Wikipedia table and Greece have only had 3 points deducted as they still have to play Gibralta. They can't get anymore points in the best 2nd place team rankings but we can. So...if we win, inclduing our deduction, we will finish on 14 points. Greece will be on 13. Edited October 7, 2017 by iainmac1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, harrystarfish said: ITV4 must have a broken calculator. Can't see how they have Bosnia above us. They don’t. Bosnia aren’t in 2nd place anymore. Greece are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocher Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Greece play Gibraltar in their last game so the 3 points they are likely to get won't count in play off results table. Thank feck for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrystarfish Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Texas Pete said: They don’t. Bosnia aren’t in 2nd place anymore. Greece are. Ah yeah, right you are. But that's still the group that's below us and has guaranteed our playoff place if we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 If Wales, Scotland & Croatia all win their last game we will finish 8th at worst. 1 point above Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brocher said: But if every team above us also win we are fecked. Not in our own hands then? Every team above us can win all they like but it doesn’t change the fact that if we win tomorrow we’ll get a playoff. Greece are on 13 points at the moment but that’s the best they can do. Their last game is against Gibraltar at home which they will win easily. Unfortunately for them, Gibraltar are confirmed as bottom of their group so the three points Greece will get for this win will not be added to their final total in the ranking of 2nd placed teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, harrystarfish said: Ah yeah, right you are. But that's still the group that's below us and has guaranteed our playoff place if we win. They will be below us if we win but they are above us at the moment since they have only played the bottom team once and we've played them twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 So if Sweden, NI & Denmark all lose their last game could we finish in top half ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The easiest way to look at it is Greece have played all their matches in our group (the group of second placed teams) and are 2 points ahead but we have a game in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Can Slovakia now qualify if they come second? They have 12 and can't get any more. Only groups D and I are below them currently, and by my reckoning no permutations can see Slovakia finish above them. Now I don't for a second think they'll take their foot off the pedal enough that Malta will take a point, but nobody had scored more than 2 goals against Malta at home. I'll take every lifeline. Ignore: We'd also have 12 and therefore wouldn't go through if we drew. Edited October 7, 2017 by Stapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: So if Sweden, NI & Denmark all lose their last game could we finish in top half ? Won't make a difference. The seedings are based on the World Rankings. So we could be the best 2nd place team but still be unseeded. Edited October 7, 2017 by iainmac1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The easiest way to look at it is we won’t win tomorrow therefore we won’t make the play offs. Its actually not that difficult to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, iainmac1 said: Won't make a difference. The seedings are based on the World Rankings. So we could be the best 2nd place team but still be unseeded. I see, I was thinking the 1-4 were seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, macy37 said: The easiest way to look at it is we won’t win tomorrow therefore we won’t make the play offs. Its actually not that difficult to work out. Right I've cancelled my November holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, macy37 said: The easiest way to look at it is we won’t win tomorrow therefore we won’t make the play offs. Its actually not that difficult to work out. God it must be fun to be you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, scottincarlisle said: I see, I was thinking the 1-4 were seeds. That would be the fairest way to do it since the groups were seeded to begin with. It would also reward teams who performed the best in their groups with a seeded place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: Right I've cancelled my November holidays. I’m here to help the delusional. Don’t mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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