killiefaetheferry Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Robertson in the starting line-up for Liverpool today. Clearly now a first choice for key matches. Would like to think so. Seemed to betting more of the ball in his last match as well. Not convinced yet. Can see Klopp putting Moreno back in when he is fully fit (possibly is now having played recently in the cup) and/or Robertson has a mediocre game today. Time will tell, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Robertson having an absolute stinker so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Scott McTominey getting big reviews for the game yesterday, and preferred over pogba. Any word if he has officially turned us down? Given the state of our national team, i take it nobody has spoke to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, jamboman said: Scott McTominey getting big reviews for the game yesterday, and preferred over pogba. Any word if he has officially turned us down? Given the state of our national team, i take it nobody has spoke to him Is he not the boy that's waiting for England though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: Is he not the boy that's waiting for England though? Looks like it, would be nice if he turns out for us but if not then you can understand being that he's born and bred in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 13 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Looks like it, would be nice if he turns out for us but if not then you can understand being that he's born and bred in England. Born, not bred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 17 hours ago, gkm_vancouver said: And another two asists this weekend against Burton. He's back on form Snodgrass is on fire at the moment. Villa have one 6 games in a row and Snodgrass got a goal or an assist in every game. Here's his 90th minute winner from last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 03/02/2018 at 6:51 PM, mccaughey85 said: Callum Paterson looks like he should be our first choice right back. He has 5 goals and 4 assists from just 9 starts. But he's not playing right-back. He's playing right midfield in a 3-4-3. He can't defend, he can't pass the ball, and he can't dribble, but he wins everything in the air, he's very hard working, and provides a massive goal threat. Switching to 3-4-3 would allow us to fit both Tierney and Robertson into the team, and it would suit Paterson as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, davew said: He has 5 goals and 4 assists from just 9 starts. But he's not playing right-back. He's playing right midfield in a 3-4-3. He can't defend, he can't pass the ball, and he can't dribble, but he wins everything in the air, he's very hard working, and provides a massive goal threat. Switching to 3-4-3 would allow us to fit both Tierney and Robertson into the team, and it would suit Paterson as well. Not a bad idea at all. If Paterson gets injured though, what then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, daviebee said: Not a bad idea at all. If Paterson gets injured though, what then? Limited options. I guess we would have to choose from Phillips, Fraser, Anya, Jack ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Accommodating Paterson right mid is a terrible shout when we have Ryan Fraser available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, ProudScot said: Accommodating Paterson right mid is a terrible shout when we have Ryan Fraser available Exactly. We would be switching to a back 3 to utilise the strengths of our 2 best players (Roberston and Tierney), not Paterson, who we aren't even sure is good enough yet. Fraser is doing well in a better league, as is Forrest (Champions league). Paterson should be the contingency plan. Not plan A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Tartan blood said: Exactly. We would be switching to a back 3 to utilise the strengths of our 2 best players (Roberston and Tierney), not Paterson, who we aren't even sure is good enough yet. Fraser is doing well in a better league, as is Forrest (Champions league). Paterson should be the contingency plan. Not plan A. I would play three centre backs with Tierney as one of them. Then that would allow us to play Paterson and Robertson as wing backs with Fraser and Forrest on the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, davew said: Switching to 3-4-3 would allow us to fit both Tierney and Robertson into the team, and it would suit Paterson as well. If you are fitting both Tierney and Robertson does it matter if you play 4-4-2 or 3-4-4? I think the biggest question is "who is our best right back?" Maybe 3-4-3 solves that question more than Tierney/Robertson. But then, as noted does that mean we lose a quality right winger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: I would play three centre backs with Tierney as one of them. Then that would allow us to play Paterson and Robertson as wing backs with Fraser and Forrest on the wings. I guess you mean 3-4-3 with Fraser, Griffiths and Forrest as our front 3. Yes, Paterson could go on the right of a 4 but do we really need him in there? We have an abundance of midfield talent, why is it so important to shoe horn him in? Having a back 3 means we don't really need to play him at all. Edited February 5, 2018 by Tartan blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Tartan blood said: I guess you mean 3-4-3 with Fraser, Griffiths and Forrest as our front 3. Yes, Paterson could go on the right of a 4 but do we really need him in there? We have an abundance of midfield talent, why is it so important to shoe horn him in? Having a back 3 means we don't really need to play him at all. We have an abundance of midfield options. Who do we have that's an automatic pick? Or how many current midfielders can you name that have scored a goal for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 hours ago, Tartan blood said: Fraser is doing well in a better league, as is Forrest (Champions league). Paterson should be the contingency plan. Not plan A. Fraser does sometimes play right-wing-back for Bournemouth, so maybe he would be a better option. Then again, Fraser has played practically every position on the park for Bournemouth. Has Forrest ever played wing-back before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, davew said: Fraser does sometimes play right-wing-back for Bournemouth, so maybe he would be a better option. Then again, Fraser has played practically every position on the park for Bournemouth. Has Forrest ever played wing-back before? He did on Saturday, not really his fault they got beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If the system dictates personnel, then Cadden will also be a decent option as back up for Paterson in the wing back role - assuming it's like for like rather than a trickey winger we're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3-4-3 does allow for something like this tho: Fraser - Griffiths - Snodgrass Robertson - McTominay - Armstrong - Paterson Tierney - Mulgrew - Lindsay Gordon I'm looking forward as much as i think we should. Hard to ignore Snodgrass in this from, and I think we still need Mulgrew at teh back to help Lindsay find his feet at international level. The 'reserve 11' isn't amazing, but we're at a point where a fair few players have passed their prime and we need to bring thru new blood.. and by it's nature this llineup would never play together anyway. McKay - McBurnie - Christie Douglas - McDonald - Cairney - Anya Hanley - Berra - Bates Archer Anya's probably as good a back up to Paterson as we have. Lacks a little quality, but his workrate can't be questioned. Cadden's a possibility, but I'm not sure of his defensive abilities. Ralston has disappeared, and I haven't seen Liam Smith at St Mirren, who's the current u21s right back. Bates is still my shout for the centerback spot. McKenna's a possibility. Overall, I don't think it's a bad system for us to adopt. 3 at the back should protect the inexperienced centerback that basically must be included. Our lone striker gets support from 2 other players being up around him and we have numbers in midfield when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 2:46 AM, davew said: Has Forrest ever played wing-back before? Yes. Everytime he plays for Scotland. No matter where he’s told to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 3-4-3 or similar could work. I whisper it but El Tel Christmas Tree formation at Euro 96 would work for us. At the moment I'd go for this. ------------Fraser - Griffiths - Forrest--------- -------- Brown(?)/MacAthur - Armstrong--- Robertson-----------------------------Paterson -----------Tierney - Berra - Soutter---------- ------------------------Gordon--------------------- Edited February 7, 2018 by Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Alan said: 3-4-3 or similar could work. I whisper it but El Tel Christmas Tree formation at Euro 96 would work for us. At the moment I'd go for this. ------------Fraser - Griffiths - Forrest--------- -------- Brown(?)/MacAthur - Armstrong--- Robertson-----------------------------Paterson -----------Tierney - Berra - Soutter---------- ------------------------Gordon--------------------- Im not sure FIFA or UEFA would be ok with that team. Its positively Tory maths there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 07/02/2018 at 2:59 PM, andyD said: 3-4-3 does allow for something like this tho: Fraser - Griffiths - Snodgrass Robertson - McTominay - Armstrong - Paterson Tierney - Mulgrew - Lindsay Gordon I'm looking forward as much as i think we should. Hard to ignore Snodgrass in this from, and I think we still need Mulgrew at teh back to help Lindsay find his feet at international level. The 'reserve 11' isn't amazing, but we're at a point where a fair few players have passed their prime and we need to bring thru new blood.. and by it's nature this llineup would never play together anyway. McKay - McBurnie - Christie Douglas - McDonald - Cairney - Anya Hanley - Berra - Bates Archer Anya's probably as good a back up to Paterson as we have. Lacks a little quality, but his workrate can't be questioned. Cadden's a possibility, but I'm not sure of his defensive abilities. Ralston has disappeared, and I haven't seen Liam Smith at St Mirren, who's the current u21s right back. Bates is still my shout for the centerback spot. McKenna's a possibility. Overall, I don't think it's a bad system for us to adopt. 3 at the back should protect the inexperienced centerback that basically must be included. Our lone striker gets support from 2 other players being up around him and we have numbers in midfield when needed. I will eat my hat if McTominay ever plays for us. Wanting to establish himself in the Man U team before deciding his international future, is code for 'England, come get me!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 goals already for Forrest. 15 for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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