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19 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

That would be portrayed as a shitty result for the SNP in terms of "material change in circumstances"

By the same token, it doesn't look good for the Ruth Davidson Tell Nicola Sturgeon To Shut Up party either.

I think vote share will be more important than seats in Scotland in terms of trying to establish any sort of mandate for anything. 

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1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said:

That would be portrayed as a shitty result for the SNP in terms of "material change in circumstances"

Correct so hopefully that will tone down sturgeons Hardened EU stance, indy will never happen unless we get euro sceptics onboard 

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8 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

Correct so hopefully that will tone down sturgeons Hardened EU stance, indy will never happen unless we get euro sceptics onboard 

We have been over this before. Given that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in Europe it would be lunacy by the SNP to try to start alienating the majority by softening their stance on EU membership. Sure they need to appeal to everybody but at the end of the day Scots (and other nationalities living here) really need to remember another indyref is about getting the golden goal......independence. Solidarity on that is key. Independence first and take it from there.

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4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

We have been over this before. Given that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in Europe it would be lunacy by the SNP to try to start alienating the majority by softening their stance on EU membership. Sure they need to appeal to everybody but at the end of the day Scots (and other nationalities living here) really need to remember another indyref is about getting the golden goal......independence. Solidarity on that is key. Independence first and take it from there.

“We are a pro European party and strongly believe in the European Union but also believe in democracy and respect the referendum result”

And then shut up and let the other parties deal with it. 

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7 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

We have been over this before. Given that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in Europe it would be lunacy by the SNP to try to start alienating the majority by softening their stance on EU membership. Sure they need to appeal to everybody but at the end of the day Scots (and other nationalities living here) really need to remember another indyref is about getting the golden goal......independence. Solidarity on that is key. Independence first and take it from there.

Exactly and through the constant rhetoric of pro europe the independence message is being drowned out,, 

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4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

“We are a pro European party and strongly believe in the European Union but also believe in democracy and respect the referendum result”

And then shut up and let the other parties deal with it. 

Yes I honestly believe we would have all but nailed independence with that stance

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3 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

Exactly and through the constant rhetoric of pro europe the independence message is being drowned out,, 

Yes that could certainly be said.

However, No voters last time need to be convinced to vote Yes and since Scotland voted to remain in Europe I can see why SNP are making EU membership an issue.

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22 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

“We are a pro European party and strongly believe in the European Union but also believe in democracy and respect the referendum result”

And then shut up and let the other parties deal with it. 

Impossible as Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain and if they "respected the referendum result" then they ignore the democratic deficit of UK wide elections

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Seeing on twatter that the SNP have won the highest share of the vote in Aberdeenshire and Aberdeen City

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11 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

Impossible as Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain and if they "respected the referendum result" then they ignore the democratic deficit of UK wide elections

Scotland voted overwhelmingly for that democratic deficit 

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