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2 hours ago, aaid said:

This.   It's also dodgy ground to suggest that the reason why Yes lost was down to English people, it just helps to feed the - false - narrative that people who support independence are anti-English bigots.

The truth is Yes lost because not enough people were convinced by by the arguments to vote Yes.

30% voted yes

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1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said:

I wonder what that could be?

A lot of pish

Kevin SchofieldVerified account @PolhomeEditor

 
 

In an interview with @theHouse_mag, business minister Richard Harrington: * Says Tory eurosceptic MPs are 'traitors' who should quit and join Nigel Farage's new party. * Says the Malthouse Compromise is 'fanciful nonsense' * Slams PM's Brexit strategy

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1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said:

A lot of pish

Kevin SchofieldVerified account @PolhomeEditor

 
 

In an interview with @theHouse_mag, business minister Richard Harrington: * Says Tory eurosceptic MPs are 'traitors' who should quit and join Nigel Farage's new party. * Says the Malthouse Compromise is 'fanciful nonsense' * Slams PM's Brexit strategy

So nothing then. 

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Basically, someone you'd never heard of, saying something you thought they probably thought already, but if it was said the other way around, you'd have been equally unsurprised.

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indyref 2 outside EU.  Vote for independence for

€uro

VAT on childrens clothing

Giving powers away including farming and fishing

Increased immigration

Tens of millions to Brussels

£10bn cuts according to Growth Commission

What a campaign that will be.

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10 minutes ago, Alan said:

indyref 2 outside EU.  Vote for independence for

€uro

VAT on childrens clothing

Giving powers away including farming and fishing

Increased immigration

Tens of millions to Brussels

£10bn cuts according to Growth Commission

What a campaign that will be.

Alan’s fear is increasing. 

So much wrong with his post about this scaremongering poster, but what struck me is “giving powers away including farming and fishing.”

Alan’s quiet happy for Westminster to control over 90% of our powers, but not the eu having less than 10%.

Of course he voted for a political party that gave away control of our fishing and farming over 50 years ago. I wonder how many times he voted to maintain this?

immigration? Most immigrants want to stay in England and even with brexit England can’t stop immigration. 

I could go on about his and the posters blazing hypocrisy.  

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9 minutes ago, Alan said:

indyref 2 outside EU.  Vote for independence for

€uro

VAT on childrens clothing

Giving powers away including farming and fishing

Increased immigration

Tens of millions to Brussels

£10bn cuts according to Growth Commission

What a campaign that will be.

Stop being a fud Alan.

Indyref2 will be for the Scottish electorate to vote for independence to make our own decisions about what's best for Scotland.

Why shouldn't we take charge of that responsibility?

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Alan just spams the board now. Doesn't interact as a member.

Comes in like a bot drops his info down, then doesn't reply or interact on any of the information.

Can the mods make sure there is a consciousness behind the account, perhaps by changing it's name to Toryspambot.

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9 minutes ago, phart said:

Alan just spams the board now. Doesn't interact as a member.

Comes in like a bot drops his info down, then doesn't reply or interact on any of the information.

Can the mods make sure there is a consciousness behind the account, perhaps by changing it's name to Torybampot.

FTFY.

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1 hour ago, Toepoke said:

I thought Alan was pro EU membership?  Jacob Rees Mogg must've got to him, or maybe Billy Mitchell...

 

No Alan will just agree with whatever the Westminster government decides. Hell they could vote to drop a nuke on a children's home in a third world country he'd find a way of backing it.

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5 hours ago, Alan said:

indyref 2 outside EU.  Vote for independence for

€uro

VAT on childrens clothing

Giving powers away including farming and fishing

Increased immigration

Tens of millions to Brussels

£10bn cuts according to Growth Commission

What a campaign that will be.

Sounds like you must support an indy ref and a chance to put the above to the test?  

Bring it on!

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Of course it's yet to be seen what a deal to rejoin/remain in the EU would entail. That could take care of the €uro, VAT on childrens clothing and farming and fishing. 

But needless to say, we can't be giving away powers on farming and fishing that we haven't got yet  - the powers the Tories wish to keep in Westminster. 

There is no certainty that UK will be reducing immigration in the first place - the Tories have already had the powers to do so since 2010 but failed to. Therefore, there's no reason to suppose immigration would be going 'back up' to pre Brexit levels. There is a serious debate to be had on immigration and the economy, but it can't be made based on a succession of trite one-sided soundbites.

Can we be allowed to imagine a scenario where some of the exodus of jobs leaving the UK due to Brexit could be tempted north in the event of Scotland independent in Europe? If so when perhaps the "immigrants" could include highly skilled professionals, and bankers 'refugees' from the City, and so on, people who would be helping serve Scotland's growing economy. 

"Tens of millions to Brussels" is not money simply going into a black hole somewhere in central Belgium, but it's funding strategic projects including all those EU funds for peripheral areas like getting roads and bridges and harbours in the Highlands that Tory Westminster would rather spend on "national" projects such as Crossrail 2. It also funds things like research and development, that you may recall, Britain and Scotland get a disproportionate share of, back, because we outcompete other European countries for it. 

Anyway, if Scotland decides it doesn't like those European terms, we can walk away, without seeking permission from Westminster Tories. I think it's called taking back control.

 

 

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Absolutely correct exile. 

It's also well-documented how many British sportsmen and women have relied on Euro Funding Grants to enable them to get adequate training facilities and coaching. They will lose all that. 

Also I have yet to hear what is to happen with the mobile network as the UK relies on European funded satellite system as EU says UK won't be able to use them after Brexit. 

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28 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Absolutely correct exile. 

It's also well-documented how many British sportsmen and women have relied on Euro Funding Grants to enable them to get adequate training facilities and coaching. They will lose all that. 

Also I have yet to hear what is to happen with the mobile network as the UK relies on European funded satellite system as EU says UK won't be able to use them after Brexit. 

AT&T or similar, not sure if thats feasible though? 

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