phart Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, aaid said: None of that is untrue. It doesn't mean that Corbyn is a political genius either. I thought the context was "not got a clue" as opposed to "political genius" That leaves 99% of the field still in play. Edited January 21, 2019 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hopefully Nigel Farage will get on board the English Independence movement. Would be a good time for him, alot of brexit supporters see Scotland and Ireland as holding them back (they wont really give a rats arse about Wales). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Now there's a thought. If Brexit doesn't go ahead - an English Independence movement. Living in England - my thoughts are that the population here would definitely go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: The fact that he's still not ahead of that shambles of a Tory party is damning. Imagine he was up against a semi competent government. Gaining circa 20 points, with a universally negative media, in the polls is damning? 2 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: So despite Theresa being as popular as the plague amongst the general populace, her party infighting reaching historic levels and the general omnishambles she has made of Brexit, Jezza can't win a vote of no confidence nor can he even remotely hope to win an election. I couldn't care less what the man on the telly says, they're mostly liars. I can manage to make my own mind up. Jezza is a failure. When was the last time we even got to a position where a vote of no confidence was called against a government? The only reason it has not been successful (yet) is that the Tory MP's won't vote to lose their jobs. A failure who makes up 20 points in the polls. A failure who pressures the government in to losing a finance bill, to being found in contempt of parliament and losing a vote by the biggest margin any government has EVER lost a vote in parliament by. A failure who the Tories are running scared of. A failure who's done all of this, all the while being smeared in the MSM. Who's had to deal with some abhorrent lies being spread about him. It's a shame that so many people who claim to have the values that Corbyn espouses and represents get caught up in the lies and negative media environment that he constantly has to battle. I guess some people really do get the utter cunt of government they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I have to agree with Ally that the Tories are probably more terrified about "losing" Scotland than anything else. That has been so clear every-time the horror speaks in Westminster. After all they really believe they "own" Scotland (the resources of course). As for the people ? We are handy for plucking the grouse I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Britain is fukked, but they will never let us leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, mariokempes56 said: I have to agree with Ally that the Tories are probably more terrified about "losing" Scotland than anything else. That has been so clear every-time the horror speaks in Westminster. After all they really believe they "own" Scotland (the resources of course). As for the people ? We are handy for plucking the grouse I suppose. Yep Why wont she allow a second EU referendum ? Answers on a postcard to - It makes her refusing a Section 30 order look like a Colonialist It's so obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Jeez listening to the Commons live again..the tories are truly right-wing-idealogical-little-englander-empire-wanking-fruitcakes. (And yes I include the "Scottish" bastards as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Parklife said: Hasn't got a clue but has: - taken his party from 20 points behind in the polls to neck and neck in them - Created a situation where the PM has had over 100 of her own MP's call no confidence in here - Given the government the biggest defeat in history All while enduring a universally negative press and a despicable smear campaign against him. If only he had a clue... Still, the man on the telly says he's not doing good, he must be right, eh? Do you really want JC as PM? Even in the 70’s Tony Benn was too left for the mainstream but I understand Corbyn is his protege and Benn was his mentor. Where do you think this will end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, thplinth said: Do you really want JC as PM? Even in the 70’s Tony Benn was too left for the mainstream but I understand Corbyn is his protege and Benn was his mentor. Where do you think this will end up. I want him as PM. Be interesting to see what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, phart said: I want him as PM. Be interesting to see what happened. Thatcherism is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Corbyn would be a disaster. O’donnell Is a car crash waiting to happen as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Free markets is not some right wing concept. It is the engine that has driven civilization. Monopoly, Oligopoly, private banking, private money supply, these are not free market ideas. Human commerce if it is free means you can act freely. If you want to give that up no matter how imperfect for some vague ideological sugar daddy who will make it all cool... what you will get is.... The Terror. After that you wont give a fuck what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: Corbyn would be a disaster. O’donnell Is a car crash waiting to happen as well. Good, insightful, reasoned post there. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, thplinth said: Free markets is not some right wing concept. It is the engine that has driven civilization. Monopoly, Oligopoly, private banking, private money supply, these are not free market ideas. Human commerce if it is free means you can act freely. If you want to give that up no matter how imperfect for some vague ideological sugar daddy who will make it all cool... what you will get is.... The Terror. After that you wont give a fuck what you get. We don't have free markets, hence the bank bail-outs and a million other things that contradict free market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Parklife said: Good, insightful, reasoned post there. Cheers. It's the PIAK Modus Operandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 At a microeconomics level free markets is just 'freedom' to most of us. At a macroeconomics level we have a shit going on that is corrupting the fuck out of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 LBC BreakingVerified account @lbcbreaking It's being reported tonight that Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's given his backing to a second Brexit referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Parklife said: Good, insightful, reasoned post there. Cheers. 9 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: It's the PIAK Modus Operandi Meow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'm voting leave in the next referendum, for the lulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Leave is the only morally correct option imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Leave is the only morally correct option imo Morals ?? Have i missed something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: Leave is the only morally correct option imo Can't really take moral preaching from you, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Parklife said: Can't really take moral preaching from you, to be honest. Rude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: Rude I'm just unsure how you appointed yourself as the arbitrator of morality. A bit fucking arrogant, not to mention delusional. You have neither the intellect, nor the integrity to put yourself in such a position. I'm sure your wee sentence sounded clever in your head though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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