wheres the pies Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Robert peston saying from a very good source that the 48 letters have been reached in a no confidence vote on the maybot now the blood bath begins in Ernest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newryrep Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46528952 again to repeat myself and to paraphrase Bill Clinton 'Its the EU (you are negotiating with )stupid' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, wheres the pies said: the blood bath begins in Ernest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 She has to go no two ways about it. She should have gone after Project Windrush scandal for me. However, as for Brexit discussions it surely changes nothing as the EU are not open to renegotiation on the deal on the table. Therefore whoever takes over has two options and one far out option. The two options are to try to push through the May deal or to resort to a no deal Brexit. The far out option is agreeing to a people's referendum. Another option I suppose would be to withdraw Article 50 and have another fresh referendum in two or three years time and then, surely, fresh negotiations with the EU would need to take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Toepoke said: 🤣 official now 48 letters are in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, hampden_loon2878 said: I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on Aren't they? All opinion polls on the next GE I have seen show the SNP picking up more seats ranging from 10 to 15. And if there were a GE the Tories certainly ain't ready and Labour are in disarray. The SNP are by far the most ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on Really I thought the snp where 21 points ahead in polls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 And derek mckay better stay firmly in the centre with his budget as thers a GE looming, he already fecked up the council elections witht the buisness rates carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 48 letters is enough to get a vote. 48 isn't nearly enough to get rid of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, wheres the pies said: Really I thought the snp where 21 points ahead in polls Floating between 10-13 i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Orraloon said: 48 letters is enough to get a vote. 48 isn't nearly enough to get rid of her. Looking at tweets and reaction on TV I would say (sadly) there are enough people standing behind her so she will survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Aren't they? All opinion polls on the next GE I have seen show the SNP picking up more seats ranging from 10 to 15. And if there were a GE the Tories certainly ain't ready and Labour are in disarray. The SNP are by far the most ready. Labour will surprise folk scotland unfortunately Edited December 12, 2018 by hampden_loon2878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Labour will surprise folk scotland unfortunately And surprise all the polls too which show them as floundering. Whereas they show the SNP gaining between 10 to 15 seats which can hardly be called as not being ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Orraloon said: 48 letters is enough to get a vote. 48 isn't nearly enough to get rid of her. She'll survive the vote easily. I don't think there's enough support to oust her from Conservative MPs. It'll take over 100 MPs to vote against her for her to even consider resigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 No doubt Corbyn will lead on train timetables at PMQs today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 She might be utterly useless, but who in their right mind would want the job, hence I think she will survive. Politics hasn’t been this fucked up/interesting for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 She'll survive no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on Even if the Tories vote to remove May tonight it doesn't result in a GE. It would only be a no-confidence vote - which Labour are deliberating over - that would potentially collapse the Government. I think she'll win the vote tonight anyway but who knows what happens after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: Even if the Tories vote to remove May tonight it doesn't result in a GE. It would only be a no-confidence vote - which Labour are deliberating over - that would potentially collapse the Government. I think she'll win the vote tonight anyway but who knows what happens after that. Spot on Alfie Moon. Today is all about Tory Leadership and nothing to do with a General Election. It would have needed Labour to table a vote of no confidence in the government and for it to be supported by a majority of the house for a general election to be triggered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on My local party were told to start campaigning after the new year a few weeks back. They’ve not been told if it’s for either a GE or indy ref. I suppose no one knows at this stage considering if May could get her bill through or not If a GE is called, or if there’s a change of leadership, then an Indy referendum will be put on the back burner, imo, for 6 months or so to see if the SNP can get the dream ticket of Boris Johnson as PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, antidote said: My local party were told to start campaigning after the new year a few weeks back. They’ve not been told if it’s for either a GE or indy ref. I suppose no one knows at this stage considering if May could get her bill through or not If a GE is called, or if there’s a change of leadership, then an Indy referendum will be put on the back burner, imo, for 6 months or so to see if the SNP can get the dream ticket of Boris Johnson as PM. I would say there is more of a chance it would be for another indyref as Brexit deal is due to be signed off by the end of March (if there is to be one). A General Election conceivably does not need to happen for about another four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I would say there is more of a chance it would be for another indyref as Brexit deal is due to be signed off by the end of March (if there is to be one). A General Election conceivably does not need to happen for about another four years. Preparation for both scenarios is the point I was making. Edited December 12, 2018 by antidote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 she’ll survive and her EU deal will be rejected by Parliament. She’s actually a Remainer so i think she will revoke article 50 rather than be responsible for a hard Brexit. The ERG will be all for hard Brexit to avoid the EU coming after their offshore avoided taxes. Unbelievably, I’m hoping for a May win in the absence of a credible Remain challenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think she'll get north of 200 MPs to vote for her. The only thing that would take her out before Brexit would be defections - if the ERG form their own party for example. I doubt that would happen, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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