Davied14 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 With 3 team groups where drawn matches proceed to penalty shootouts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Sounds awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Sounds horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Still won't qualify! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Insane money grabbing.......again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Part of me likes the idea of this, as Iceland and Wales showed at the Euros just what a smaller/weaker/outside team can do when given a route to the finals, but ultimately this is not about improving the World Cup, but just getting more $$$ by opening a smoother route for the likes of China, India, Canada and Egypt to qualify and FIFA to lap it up in TV revenue by having these large tv audiences at the WC finals. Edited January 10, 2017 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 All about the $$$. Wonder if they will change qualifying in UEFA at all by the time this comes around. Extra 3 spaces in the current format would probably mean 9 group winners 4 best 2nd places teams Remaining 5 2nd place teams and best 3rd team in play offs for the final 3 spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davied14 said: With 3 team groups where drawn matches proceed to penalty shootouts.... i don't think the penalties part has been decided yet, imagine how awful that would be, like something out of american sports. you would get so many teams (us included if hell freezes over and we qualify) playing for a draw and taking the chance of penalties "and its grant hanley junior to step up for scotland!" Edited January 10, 2017 by LewisEDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LewisEDI said: i don't think the penalties part has been decided yet, imagine how awful that would be, like something out of american sports. you would get so many teams (us included if hell freezes over and we qualify) playing for a draw and taking the chance of penalties "and its grant hanley junior to step up for scotland!" Aye its goosed. Teams will be playing for a draw or a narrow defeat for one if it suits both to go through without the pen format. With the pen format teams will be playing for a draw hoping a win on pens will get them 3 points. Sounds a shambles. On a plus side we will only need to endure England for 2 games now. Edited January 10, 2017 by Mazziessc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 This is where the golden goal might work. Extra time fir 30 minutes, first one to score gets the points. Wouldn't be as cut throat as before when your competition ended there and then, although that situation could of course still arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjm007 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 only 3 extra European teams = 16 in total. Given we couldn't qualify for a 24 team Euros - does it even impact us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 hours ago, LewisEDI said: i don't think the penalties part has been decided yet, imagine how awful that would be, like something out of american sports. you would get so many teams (us included if hell freezes over and we qualify) playing for a draw and taking the chance of penalties "and its grant hanley junior to step up for scotland!" At least we might finally get to experience penalties! I think having a shootout after a draw in the groups is probably to stop teams settling for a draw in the last group game. That said you could still get a scenario like this, (in our group of course)... Brazil 3 Scotland 0 Scotland 1 Mongolia 0 Mongolia 2 Brazil 0 (both teams carve up the result, Brazil still win the group and we find a new way to get eliminated). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Saint Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 52 minutes ago, Toepoke said: At least we might finally get to experience penalties! I think having a shootout after a draw in the groups is probably to stop teams settling for a draw in the last group game. That said you could still get a scenario like this, (in our group of course)... Brazil 3 Scotland 0 Scotland 1 Mongolia 0 Mongolia 2 Brazil 0 (both teams carve up the result, Brazil still win the group and we find a new way to get eliminated). I'm not against expansion, but the point you made about collusion does concern me. I know that it can still happen now (think Sweden and Denmark in Euro 2004), but it's probably less likely to happen. I agree with you about the penalties too. In a three group scenario (with two teams advancing), I think you need to have penalties so that there is always a winner. Otherwise, imagine your scenario again but make the middle game a 1-1 draw. Brazil (having already beaten Scotland 3-0) would then be in the position of effectively being able to decide which other team went through with them. They could easily beat Mongolia 4-0 or more to take Scotland through. Or they could settle for a 2-0 win and that would take Mongolia through at Scotland's expense. Imagine how annoyed you'd be as a Scotland fan if Brazil went 2-0 up against Mongolia after 10 minutes and then did naff all for the remaining 80, thereby knocking Scotland out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doric Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Won't affect us. Need to be 148 teams before we have chance of qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If ever proof was needed that fitba is well and truly phuked then this is exhibit A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 When it expanded to 24 teams for Spain 1982 the tournament was enhanced without a doubt Probably the greatest tournament of them all Italia 90 was the last memorable finals Going to the USA in 1994 was a disaster and expanding to 32 for France 98 was the final deathnell The novelty of teams like Cameroon, South Korea, Australia, USA, Senegal, Ghana et al soon wears off and it's now a glut of poor poor sides This will make it even poorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 40% of the games will now be knockout. That could be a good thing, provided there's a minimal incidence of 120 minute then penalties snore-athons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: When it expanded to 24 teams for Spain 1982 the tournament was enhanced without a doubt Probably the greatest tournament of them all Italia 90 was the last memorable finals Going to the USA in 1994 was a disaster and expanding to 32 for France 98 was the final deathnell The novelty of teams like Cameroon, South Korea, Australia, USA, Senegal, Ghana et al soon wears off and it's now a glut of poor poor sides This will make it even poorer USA was a tremendous tournament, loads of great games ( although the final was truly terrible) with guys like hagi, stoichkov, batistuta and baggio in their prime and actually delivering at an international tournament. I love having teams like Ghana and Senegal at world cups and feel the world cup is far better for having them. It shouldn't be an elite affair for Europe and Brazil and Argentina . The current 32 team setup is perfect in my opinion with a natural elimination process from 32 down to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 17 hours ago, Toepoke said: At least we might finally get to experience penalties! I think having a shootout after a draw in the groups is probably to stop teams settling for a draw in the last group game. That said you could still get a scenario like this, (in our group of course)... Brazil 3 Scotland 0 Scotland 1 Mongolia 0 Mongolia 2 Brazil 0 (both teams carve up the result, Brazil still win the group and we find a new way to get eliminated). Excuse my ignorance but where would the h2h come into this? Would we be back to the old fashioned way of GD followed by GS, GC then h2h? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Mazziessc said: Excuse my ignorance but where would the h2h come into this? Would we be back to the old fashioned way of GD followed by GS, GC then h2h? Assuming penalties will mean all games have a winner, head to head would never apply as the only chance to use it would be when all 3 teams are tied on 1 win each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On 11/01/2017 at 7:23 AM, Paulo2576 said: USA was a tremendous tournament, loads of great games ( although the final was truly terrible) with guys like hagi, stoichkov, batistuta and baggio in their prime and actually delivering at an international tournament. Back when it was an honor to play for your country and not an inconvenient chore outside your club games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On 10/01/2017 at 11:28 PM, Ally Bongo said: When it expanded to 24 teams for Spain 1982 the tournament was enhanced without a doubt Probably the greatest tournament of them all Italia 90 was the last memorable finals Going to the USA in 1994 was a disaster and expanding to 32 for France 98 was the final deathnell The novelty of teams like Cameroon, South Korea, Australia, USA, Senegal, Ghana et al soon wears off and it's now a glut of poor poor sides This will make it even poorer And we still won't be good enough to make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 32 is the perfect number. Same with 16 at the Euros/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Reevesy said: 32 is the perfect number. Same with 16 at the Euros/ Neither 32 nor 16 are perfect numbers. 6 and 28 are perfect numbers. The next perfect number is 498 but that would be far too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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