sbcmfc Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Just now, slasher said: Just stating facts. I fail to see how Man City get off without sanction. That's not how strict liability works. The Celtic fans weren't fighting with themselves. The Muppets that had pyro deserve all they get however. Perhaps they wouldn't have picked them up on that alone, but have included it with the other incidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Perhaps they wouldn't have picked them up on that alone, but have included it with the other incidents. That's not how strict liability works though, you can't cherry pick. You can't have a fight with yourself........... unless you're that guy Fermer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 26 minutes ago, slasher said: That's not how strict liability works though, you can't cherry pick. You can't have a fight with yourself........... unless you're that guy Fermer! Have they not been charged with setting off fireworks, "illicit chanting" and the fighting? My point is, perhaps any 1 of these alone might've gone unpunished and/or some added in to trump up the charge, friending how you look at it. Perhaps city could be punished for not having adequate segregation or ticketing arrangements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 51 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Have they not been charged with setting off fireworks, "illicit chanting" and the fighting? My point is, perhaps any 1 of these alone might've gone unpunished and/or some added in to trump up the charge, friending how you look at it. Perhaps city could be punished for not having adequate segregation or ticketing arrangements? There's no mention of chanting? Dunno where you've got that. The charge relates to crowd disorder and a firework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, slasher said: There's no mention of chanting? Dunno where you've got that. The charge relates to crowd disorder and a firework. There you go, you did get off with one then. I'm trumping up the charges myself now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 are UEFA not threatening to fine Man City for their fans repeated boo-ing of the champions league anthem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Big Col said: are UEFA not threatening to fine Man City for their fans repeated boo-ing of the champions league anthem? I thought they already had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: I thought they already had? not sure A quick google returns the £49M fine for breaking FFP rules. Can't see any figure quoted for the booing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: Perhaps city could be punished for not having adequate segregation or ticketing arrangements? City should be charged for allowing away fans into home sections, however, I'm not sure what more they could have done. Â I booked 10 Corporate seats & had to email City stating there were no Celtic fans in the group. 28 minutes ago, Big Col said: are UEFA not threatening to fine Man City for their fans repeated boo-ing of the champions league anthem? They didn't charge us, however, it has been mentioned in the match delegates report at least once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Celtic charged with helping City's ground look full? Their support really is poor. Strange one as I always remember the 2 visits IÂ made to Maine Road being very enjoyable atmosphere wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 8 hours ago, Big Col said: are UEFA not threatening to fine Man City for their fans repeated boo-ing of the champions league anthem? That is a joke if true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, macy37 said: Celtic charged with helping City's ground look full? Their support really is poor. Strange one as I always remember the 2 visits I made to Maine Road being very enjoyable atmosphere wise. Surprisingly, City have the 4th highest average attendance in the Premier League with the ground being 98.5% full on average. Champions league & league cup games have been a different story - and the atmosphere has been sh!t at them all In fact City's average attendance is only 1600 less than Celtics & considering Celtic Park has 5000 more seats than the Etihad, that means there are more empty seats at Parkhead  Edited December 9, 2016 by Glasgowmancity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 27 minutes ago, Glasgowmancity said: Surprisingly, City have the 4th highest average attendance in the Premier League with the ground being 98.5% full on average. Champions league & league cup games have been a different story - and the atmosphere has been sh!t at them all In fact City's average attendance is only 1600 less than Celtics & considering Celtic Park has 5000 more seats than the Etihad, that means there are more empty seats at Parkhead  Having watched many Man City games on TV there is no way it's ever 98.5% full! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: Having watched many Man City games on TV there is no way it's ever 98.5% full! I wondered that myself tbf, but thinking of only league games, I think it probably is.  As I said CL and League Cup it's nowhere near that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 37 minutes ago, Glasgowmancity said: Surprisingly, City have the 4th highest average attendance in the Premier League with the ground being 98.5% full on average. Champions league & league cup games have been a different story - and the atmosphere has been sh!t at them all In fact City's average attendance is only 1600 less than Celtics & considering Celtic Park has 5000 more seats than the Etihad, that means there are more empty seats at Parkhead  Ahhhh. The old tactic of counting "attendance" as "seats sold", rather than the actual attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 35 minutes ago, Parklife said: Ahhhh. The old tactic of counting "attendance" as "seats sold", rather than the actual attendance. Celtic definitely don't do that. this was about a 45,000 crowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Celtic definitely don't do that. this was about a 45,000 crowd Aberdeen are one of the few clubs to actually publish the attendance of the match, not seats sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Ahhhh. The old tactic of counting "attendance" as "seats sold", rather than the actual attendance. I thought City actually did the attendance figures (I thought it came out a couple of years ago in a GMP freedom of information request) but could be completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Aberdeen are one of the few clubs to actually publish the attendance of the match, not seats sold. Hearts publish actual attendance - in fact I thought most clubs did this. Celtic are the most obvious ones that don't as the picture above shows only too well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, dipped flake said: Hearts publish actual attendance - in fact I thought most clubs did this. Celtic are the most obvious ones that don't as the picture above shows only too well To be fair, the picture was from a cup game for exaggeration purposes. Motherwell do actual attendance, I'd imagine we'll have had attendances lower than the amount of season tickets issued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Glasgowmancity said: Surprisingly, City have the 4th highest average attendance in the Premier League with the ground being 98.5% full on average. Champions league & league cup games have been a different story - and the atmosphere has been sh!t at them all In fact City's average attendance is only 1600 less than Celtics & considering Celtic Park has 5000 more seats than the Etihad, that means there are more empty seats at Parkhead  In England, certainly for the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City who have been pretty much cever present in the Champions League, there is very little interest in the group stages of the Champions League.  That's a case of familiarity breeds contempt. For those clubs, the "big European nights" that people get excited about and where it's next to impossible to get tickets are the quarters and semi-finals. It's the League that is the most important competition, everything else - including the CL - comes second to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 2 hours ago, dipped flake said: Hearts publish actual attendance - in fact I thought most clubs did this. Celtic are the most obvious ones that don't as the picture above shows only too well Rangers and Ross County are two other clubs at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 08/12/2016 at 8:15 AM, ParisInAKilt said: Celtic wish they could be the plastic club City and Chelsea now are. Not in a million years Paris !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermer Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 On 09/12/2016 at 7:30 PM, wellyman said: Not in a million years Paris !!! What is a plastic club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, Fermer said: What is a plastic club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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