Parklife Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Yes you're correct because of not doing what was bracketed and what is the #1 purpose of friendlies for all other international sides (playing new players and trying new systems) Correct. Friendlies where we could've tried out different centre half combinations, experimented with 3 at the back, tried to fix our porous midfield... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Correct. Friendlies where we could've tried out different centre half combinations, experimented with 3 at the back, tried to fix our porous midfield... Exactly. Those friendlies v Italy and France where zero positives were gained and we moved backwards were ridiculous also. Clearly friendlies against nations similar to ourselves and countries we would be competing with for second spot in the upcoming qualifiers should have been the chosen opponents; Latvia, Israel, Macedonia, Armenia etc etc... Edited November 15, 2016 by ProudScot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Exactly. Those friendlies v Italy and France where zero positives were gained and we moved backwards were ridiculous also. Clearly friendlies against nations similar to ourselves and countries we would be competing with for second spot in the upcoming qualifiers should have been the chosen opponents; Latvia, Israel, Macedonia, Armenia etc etc... But money talks. It's a money making busines now, not a football association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: But money talks. It's a money making busines now, not a football association Would not have paid big fees to France and Italy to get those fixtures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Im boycotting the friendly in Amsterdam in February I doubt anyone will go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Would not have paid big fees to France and Italy to get those fixtures? Off course we wouldn't have. We were away so they paid us. France certainly would have paid us, Italy maybe not as it was a neutral venue. The Maltese trip in May was booked as our pre euros training camp so they had to make use of it so they probably came to an agreement with the Iti's Edited November 15, 2016 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Brassrubber said: Im boycotting the friendly in Amsterdam in February I doubt anyone will go yeah me too, will probably go to the one in Hungary in March though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 12 minutes ago, hannibal smith said: yeah me too, will probably go to the one in Hungary in March though I'll go on both trips but I won't go to either game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, hannibal smith said: yeah me too, will probably go to the one in Hungary in March though Budapest in March ? I'm back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 52 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: Budapest in March ? I'm back in. The match is actually in Gyor, but don't worry there's some boy on Facebook who's organised 7 busses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, deecie said: The match is actually in Gyor, but don't worry there's some boy on Facebook who's organised 7 busses Count me back out then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 22 hours ago, Parklife said: Correct. Friendlies where we could've tried out different centre half combinations, experimented with 3 at the back, tried to fix our porous midfield... 20 hours ago, ProudScot said: Exactly. Those friendlies v Italy and France where zero positives were gained and we moved backwards were ridiculous also. Clearly friendlies against nations similar to ourselves and countries we would be competing with for second spot in the upcoming qualifiers should have been the chosen opponents; Latvia, Israel, Macedonia, Armenia etc etc... Both spot on. When things are going well, I'm all for continuity in friendlies and don't advocate change for change sake just because it's friendly. However, when things are going as phukin disastrously as they have been in the last couple of years, then when else can you try new things. Sheer idiocy! As for the friendlies against France and Italy, I'd also add the ones against Denmark and The Czech Rep as they were just as bad. How we won either of those matches is absolutely beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I look forward to this League of Nations when we will neither be able to dictate who we play in 'friendlies' or if we even play at all. Talking of which, the draw for that must have some date in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Don't understand it at all. I like Strachan, he's a smart guy and he does really care about Scotland succeeding.. but while his squads are usually pretty good, his starting 11s have become questionable and to pass up the chance to get the players together to play, especially at a point where we could use some tinkering and looking at options is well.. it seems negligent. We didn't have a friendly around the Malta game either. So that's 2 games we've passed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 54 minutes ago, scot scotland scottish said: I look forward to this League of Nations when we will neither be able to dictate who we play in 'friendlies' or if we even play at all. Talking of which, the draw for that must have some date in mind? Don't believe there is a draw. It's based on the coefficient I'm sure. Currently we are mostly likely to be in League C drawn in one of the 3 groups of 4 or one group of 3 along with all the teams ranked 25th-39th in Europe coefficient. Israel Albania Montenegro Northern Ireland Serbia Finland Bulgaria Armenia Estonia Lithuania Greece. Norway. Slovenia. Iceland. Wales Were relegation candidates already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapperone Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 International fixture dates are usually about a week long. There are spaces for two internationals in each date. Strachan has NEVER played an away friendly in the same week that we’ve had a competitive game. For example: · November 2016 competitive game V England. No friendly. · October 2016 doesn’t count as two competitive games V Slovakia and Lithuania. · September 2016 competitive game V Malta. No friendly. · End May 2016 no competitive games. Away friendlies V Italy & France. · March 2016 no competitive games. Friendlies V Denmark & Czech Republic. If you look through the historic fixtures, the same pattern was repeated in 2015, 2014 and 2013, right back to his first game in charge against Estonia. He played a home friendly against Northern Ireland four days before a competitive game against Gibraltar in March 2015 and did the same against Qatar 8 days before a trip to Ireland, but has never done an away friendly in the same week as a competitive match. The reason I bring this up?? We have competitive games in each period of international fixtures dates next year: Slovenia in March & England in June. Which means that while we might slip in a home friendly before one of those games, it's unlikely the TA will be going abroad again until we play in Lithuania in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exglasgowasc Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Apparently Luxembourg want one against us. They see us as the type of team they should be playing as they could beat us and climb up the rankings. I admire their thinking and after all Fola Esch beat Aberdeen this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Why would Strachan want to take advantage of friendlies, he already knows who his favorites are, job done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 San marino players are wanting to play us probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Exglasgowasc said: Apparently Luxembourg want one against us. They see us as the type of team they should be playing as they could beat us and climb up the rankings. I admire their thinking and after all Fola Esch beat Aberdeen this season. With the current manager and set up I'd fancy at best a draw away from home at the moment. That is depressing but where we are at :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 16/11/2016 at 0:48 PM, scot scotland scottish said: I look forward to this League of Nations when we will neither be able to dictate who we play in 'friendlies' or if we even play at all. Talking of which, the draw for that must have some date in mind? think the draw for the nations league is based on the rankings after the World Cup 2018 finals, sure i read that somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanpar Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 14/11/2016 at 3:15 PM, DoonTheSlope said: Away to Northern Ireland and Estonia next year That is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanpar Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) . Edited November 19, 2016 by tartanpar . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Any more word on the potential Luxembourg game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanpar Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 16/11/2016 at 1:59 PM, Mazziessc said: Don't believe there is a draw. It's based on the coefficient I'm sure. Currently we are mostly likely to be in League C drawn in one of the 3 groups of 4 or one group of 3 along with all the teams ranked 25th-39th in Europe coefficient. Israel Albania Montenegro Northern Ireland Serbia Finland Bulgaria Armenia Estonia Lithuania Greece. Norway. Slovenia. Iceland. Wales Were relegation candidates already There is a draw. "The draw will include the necessary conditions to guarantee the sporting fairness and viability of the competition" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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