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  1. 1 minute ago, TAMB2 said:

    You - stop the unnecessary wind-ups. You're a wind-up  merchant. You're good at it. We get it.

    He's the one who came into my thread for one purpose, and that purpose is to troll.

    Excuse me for giving him a slap.

  2. Just now, kumnio said:

    Busquets and Kroos arent finished yet.

    Barcelona and Real currently have midfielders who can make 5 yard passes and they don't break into a sweat when an opponent is next to them, so if he did join those two, he's be at left back. 

    Do I have to dumb it down for you?

  3. 46 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said:

    Starting to think Robertson out of position might be better than Tierney out of position, I am sure that Tierney would be a better option to play behind Fraser. 

    We just don't have the central players to cover Robertson and Fraser together on the same wing, I also think that left back is a stupid place to have your captain. Don't bother quoting some brilliant left back who was also a great captain I really don't care.(not directed at you)

    Currently, though probably not tomorrow I would have Robertson, Mcgregor and Mctominay in midfield with Fraser and Forrest  slightly further forward and some random striker up front. Have Mctominay on the right because we don't have a right back and Forrest also needs cover. If the three central midfielders can also cover our center backs and the goalkeeper we might be OK

    Absolutely spot on.

    I'd also agree with your midfield line-up in midfield and attacking midfield.

    I don't care what anyone says, the middle of the park (both defence and midfield and attack) is the most important position on a football pitch. If you control the middle then you'll control the game. We simply are not in a privelaged position to play our best players either at full-back or on the wing. There's no point having players out wide if the players in the middle aren't good enough to feed them. We must play our best players through the middle.

    3 minutes ago, fringo said:

    This may sound ludicrous, but I could actually see Barca and/or Real showing an interest in Robertson in the next couple of years if he continues this form.

    Both these clubs love attacking fullbacks and he is actually good enough already IMO.

    Not so ludicrous. He's getting better and better, and his assists are so that it'll be noticed.

    He made a brilliant tackle on (I think) Messi early on, and now almost an assist.

  4. 10 minutes ago, romanticscot said:

    I like option 3 for sure @Chripper, it saddens me that for over 20 years......2 0....two decades has passed and we have not made any changes.  Perhaps this academy stuff is the fruit of that and if that's the case then I apologize to whomever, but if we don't change anything then the next twenty years will be the occasional tournament appearance. 

    I know. Everyone in Scottish football must take a share of the blame for not only the state of the Scottish national team, but also the state of Scottish football. If you attend a match below the SPL it's akin to watching a Volleyball match. The lack of basic skill is criminal.

    I agree with you, if these performance schools can arrest the decline then that'll be great, if not, I can genuinely see Scotland drift towards 100 in the world rankings. Because as it is right now I'm petrified for Scotland meeting any half-decent team. 

  5. 6 minutes ago, romanticscot said:

    What I take from the Ajax's, Wales and Iceland runs and even Leicester winning the English prem is there is always a  chance for a someone with good organisation, good favor in opposition and form to go against the grain and surprise everyone.  Its not usually long term success as the balance of power usually settles with slight modifications to the status quo once again. My question to all of you is - would you take a 2 year patch of getting to the euro's and making the quarters to go back to the doldrums once again OR would you take regular qualification to get knocked out in the group stages?  I know what I would take and that would be the latter. 

    I'd take the latter.

    If there was a third choice of "Drawing up a proper blueprint, studying nations like Holland, France, Belgium and Spain on how they train their youth, etc. Then take 2-4 years to implement it. Forcing domestic clubs to play their homegrown players. And then seeing where it takes us"

    I'd rather take that.

    We've neglected our young players for too long. I mean, an example of this, Celtic released Andy Robertson as a youth, if it was up to them he would still be shelf-packing. It makes you wonder how many more Andy Robertson's there've been over the last decade or so.

  6. Hamburg and Celtic looking at Livingston keeper Liam Kelly.

    Kelly has been the best keeper in Scotland this season, the only reason Bain is Scotland No1 is because he's playing with Celtic. If Celtic brought Robert Douglas out of retirement and made him their No1 keeper, he'd be Scotland's number one. Insane.

  7. 3 hours ago, todd said:

    I actually believe 3 at the back has this effect on you! 😆

    Nah.

    The fact that we suck has that effect on me.

  8. 3 hours ago, SWMM82 said:

    Sorry Chripper disagree, by taking Robertson out of his left back berth you negate one of our most potent attacking threats.....his deliveries from the left. 

    And you keep referring to McGregor as a Championship Player..... when there is nothing to suggest he couldn’t play in the EPL. His close control, vision and ability in tight situations are his strong points in midfield. What makes you think that Robertson would fare any better?

    And playing Tierney at right back, while not ideal, isn’t nearly as radical a suggestion.....at the end of the day he is a full back and a defender foremost.

    When Is the last time we saw Robertson bombing down the left for Scotland? I can't recall it. It would be an issue if we didn't have Tierney, but we do. Most people are saying that he's not had a stand out game for Scotland in so long.

    There's little difference between the bottom teams of the EPL and the Championship, so yes, I'm sure he could play for a team like Everton or Burnley, etc. Certainly not a top 6 team, though. Robertson is a better player. When I think of McGregor I think of him against PSG when all he did was pass back and dribble towards his own goal. You can say "Oh, it's PSG", but McTominay pretty much bullied Verratti for 90 minutes and drove forward with the ball and wasn't scared. McGregor played like a little frightened mouse, and that's a common thing with most of our players.

    Playing Tierney at right back negates one of our most potent attacking threats (;)) as he has to check on his left when he wants to cross, which isn't ideal.

  9. 2 minutes ago, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

    Cheers. I didn't give an opinion on my preferred formation. To be honest i don't give a shit as long as the formation the new manager decides to use works, won't hold my breath tho.

    Same here.

    I wish we lives in a world were we had two, or even one class central defender, if we did then I wouldn't hard on about three at the back... but we don't. Even the last time we did have a class center back (Colin Hendry) we still had to play with three. 

    I just want us to be organized and hard to beat, at this moment in time that's all we can aim for.

  10. Just now, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

    No problem. Opinion respected.

    Yours, too, as I tend to respect everyone's opinion.

    While I respect the opinion to keep with a back four, I'm baffled with it. Absolutely baffled.

  11. Just now, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

    I'm sure the commentator said that Spurs started with a 352 formation. Is that enough for you to give up on the formation you constantly go on about?

    People can cite teams who use 3-5-2 and lost all they want, nothing will ever eclipse our match against Kazakhstan.

    But no, let's continue with the 4-2-3-1. I mean, we won't meet the might of Kazakhstan every week.....

  12. Watching this match it's enough to make you give up on Scotland entirely.

    This is a club whose country is only three times larger than ours, and yet they're producing players (De Jong) who are joining Barcelona next season. (De ligt and Van De Beek will also be snapped up by giant teams) These players have thought process so quick that it doesn't even seem human. And as far as their skill and technique go... it's on another world to not just us, but to English EPL players.

    What are we doing? Producing players who can hold their own in the English Championship.

    As I said, it's enough to make you give up on Scotland.

  13. 0:1 up to Spurs. 72% possession and making Tottenham look like... Scotland.

    Ajax could actually win the European cup.

    I haven't seen a team better than them.

  14. 41 minutes ago, romanticscot said:

    I get your point, you don't rate our midfielders but Ryan Fraser, James Forrest, Ryan Christie and Callum McGregor combined do not equate to less than McTominay.  McTominay is good at what he does, but relatively new to first team football. Yes I am aware of his performances in Europe just think your grossly exaggerating.

    No, I wasn't including Fraser or Forrest, just the central midfielders.

  15. 10 minutes ago, runningtings said:

    There isn't a lot of debate on here about a back 3 or Andy Robertson playing in midfield, it all comes from one (very prolific) poster.

    Andy is a world class left back it is ridiculous to move him anywhere else.

    Again, if Austria do it with Alaba and Germany do it with Kimmich, why not us? Add in the fact that most of our midfielders play in the English Championship.

    No one has given a proper answer to this. All I get is "OOooooh! But Chripper, Andy Robertson has 'left back' written on his DNA, we couldn't possible play him elsewhere as it would be against Mother Nature!"

    And yet people are fine with playing Tierney "out of position" at right back. I don't think people get the irony.

  16. 24 minutes ago, romanticscot said:

    Are you being serious? McTominay must be up there with Iniesta and Pirlo in your eyes. 

    Do you realize our bad our midfielders are?

    McGinn is Championship standard, so is McLean, as is McDonald, and Shinnie, and McGregor and Christie and Armstrong.

  17. 3 minutes ago, csinclair said:

    I've been looking over the lineup from the 2-2 against England as I feel that 3 at the back was really effective for us that game and trying to see the difference from the nations league. Maybe it was having Berra in the 3 with his experience? Maybe it was having Morrison & Brown in the midfield as opposed to McDonald & McGinn? I thought our better periods in that game were when Fraser came on and we were able to counter with his pace.

    There's a lot of back 3/back 4 debate on here but ideally I'd like to see us using both. With a full squad we should be beating the likes of Kazakstan with a back 4 to be honest (with a proper left back and not Shinnie) as we should be looking to be on the front foot. Against the likes of Belgium though I don't think we really have a choice but to go for a 3.

    Thank you for bringing that match up! It's people completely forget about it and what system we used.

    In an ideal world where we had top defenders and top midfielders I would say that we play with a back four, all day long. But we don't. Our defenders haven't been equipped to play in a four since the early 90s. From 95 to now we've only had one central defender that I personally would call top drawer, and that was Colin Hendry. He was a true leader and he pretty much forged his other two center backs into a solid unit... plus what he did with Blackburn was brilliant.

    Do you remember the play-offs for 2000 when we played England (funnily enough)? The match at Wembley David Beckham was like a second right back as McCann kept pushing him back. On the face of it a 3-5-2 is defensive one, when we get pushed back it's a 5 man defense, but when we push forward we are pretty much attacking with 5/6 players.

    As you said, and I totally agree, we must play with a 3 against Belgium, and have our players knowing what they're doing. If we don't, if we play with a back four.. the score could get into double figures.

  18. 4 minutes ago, csinclair said:

    Personally my issue with it is that Robbo himself doesn't seem like he's comfortable playing other positions. Even some top players aren't very versatile but that doesn't mean they're not top players still.

    I know and I know. But most people here don't even want to give it a try.

    Didn't he say that he's not comfortable with 3-5-2 when McLeish was manager? Yeah. I doubt he'd say someone like that with Klopp at the helm. He's just shut up and buckle down, like he did when Moreno was left back.

  19. 1 hour ago, andyD said:

    I think that says more about you than the players available. :D

    That says more about the fact that our midfield made Kazakhstan's midfield look like France's.

    The fact that Scott McTominay is better than all of the rest of our midfielders combined speaks volumes for their quality.

  20. 1 hour ago, andyD said:

    Christie's essentially a number 10, and a good one.. a position we don't really have any one else to play, except perhaps Snodgrass.
    Comparing him to a holding midfielder is a bizarre thing to do, but it is you, so i shouldn't be surprised.

    I highly doubt Robertson would want to play defensive mid. He's a left back for a team at the peak of club football. He likes being a left back. He probably wants to focus on being a left back. Also, when we have a world class player it's probably best to use them in the position where they're world class, not try and convert them into being mediocre at something else. It's just a foolish idea.

    The idea that our midfielders are all awful is equally silly. McTominay seems to obviously be a step above at the moment, but Armstrong's not had a bad season by any means. Despite niggling injuries, he's made 31 appearances for Southampton and scored 4 goals. He's not looked out of his depth at all at EPL level and is still one of the most consistent performers in a Scotland shirt. Even when we're awful he's generally ok.

    A midfield 5 of: Fraser, Armstrong, Christie, McTominay, Forrest
    It's a good midfield.

    Our problems come when our first choice players aren't available. And that's not something to be solved by shunting left backs into midfield.

     

    If a player is top drawer then he'd essentially be able to play anyone. Do you remember when Pirlo broke through at Inter Milan as a number 10? Then a few years down the line AC Milan put him in the anchorman role and he was exceptional. This wouldn't happen in Scotland. We think a player's positional status Is written In their DNA. I also Remember Paul Lambert being a rather decent attacking midfielder with ST Mirren and Motherwell, when he moved to Borussia Dortmund they pretty much instantly saw him as an anchorman, within a season he's holding the European Cup and he was man of the match in the final… and he probably still had Zidane in his pocket when he was having his pre-game shower.

    Yeah. It's a foolish idea? Yep. That's what Austria think, too. "Alaba is a world class left back, probably the best in the world, so we shouldn't even bother playing him in a position where he's get more of the ball" - Or obviously they didn't think that.

    You do realize that players haven't got positional identified imprinted on their DNA, right? God didn't write positions on a player's birth certificate. So to suggest that a player, a world class one at that, doesn't have the football intelligence to play more than one position isn't just silly, it's insane.

    There's parallels between Kimmich (the best right back in the world) and Robertson. Both were wingers as youths, both were played at fullback by their clubs. The only difference s that German fans ad coaches are progressive and they could see that he's equally adept at playing fullback as he is anchorman. Which is why he plays fullback for his club and anchorman for his country.

    Hell, it would appear that even Austrian fans and coaches are more progressive than ours, as they didn't bat an eyelid when Alaba (one of the best left backs in the world) plays left back all season and shifts into anchorman for his country.

    There are many reasons why we're lagging in world football, and our stubbornness when it comes to "natural positions" and our obsession with them is one of them.

    Plus, "is a bizarre thing to do, but it is you, so i shouldn't be surprised" - Really? Personal digs? Personal insults feed my already pump ego, so keep It coming. :) 

  21. 26 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

    Congratulations 

    You like me, don't you?

    26 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said:

    Posted this over three years ago and got no replies

     He was in the championship then but his stats were ludicrous. 

    A year ad a half ago and we couldn't decide if he would be better used at left mid with Teirney left back as he wasn't even established in the Liverpool team then. 

    Would say that the majority thought he was good enough to take his chance once it arose and every one knew he was too good for Hull

    Thanks for that.

    You know, the only thing that separated the three really good players of that Dundee United team (Gauld, Robertson and Armstrong) is that Robertson was pretty much the only one who faced adversary and had to take a step back to take two forward. I think it's his mental strength that sets him apart from most Scottish players.

    I do think we should move either him or Tierney into the anchorman position. I'd trust them in midfield more than I would Christie, McGregor, McGinn, etc.

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