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Probably before he got sent off

O They're pushing for an 18 team league and they want to invite the OF. So five team just demoted like that from the EPL. I can see all the chairmen being happy with that.🤣

I'd take those three too if griffiths is in the right frame of mind and fit.

He should've been sent off but Willie collum was in charge so............

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Che Adams and Stuart Armstrong start for Southampton

Milan ultras take on it. Hard to argue with it Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost. “The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manoeuvres over decades that has made football into a business. “The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy. “But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart. “Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs. “Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents. “Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times. “Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans. “Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium. “Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised. “Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations. “We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours. “The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality. “Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans.

I have seen it confirmed but those ten matches will be seeded against seeded too

Wow, those new CL proposals are wild. A 36 team league where you play 10 games instead of 6 in the league structure........hmm I thought these clubs already played too many games per season. There's protection for the majority of ESL gang. They've more or less got their super league but yeah this was a great victory for the fans and sport.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-champions-league-format-explained/ How will the 2024/25 competition change? The pivotal change in the reforms announced by the UEFA Executive Committee after its meeting on 19 April 2021 is the departure from the current format’s opening 32-team group stage. The present Champions League season begins with participants divided into eight groups of four. From the 2024/25 season, there will be a single league made up of all 36 competing clubs. This will give four more sides the opportunity to compete against the best clubs in Europe. Under the new format, teams will play four matches more than is currently the case. They will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures against 10 different teams, half of them at home and half of them away. This gives the opportunity for clubs to test themselves against a wider range of opponents – and also raises the prospect of fans seeing the top teams go head to head more often earlier in the competition. The new format should mean that there is more to play for right up until the final night of league action. How will the four additional spots be allocated? Qualification for the Champions League will continue to be open and depend on a club’s final position in the previous season’s domestic league competition. The additional four slots available in 2024/25 will be allocated according to three different criteria: Slot one: awarded to a club from the country placed fifth in UEFA’s national association coefficient rankings. Each association's coefficient is based on the results of its clubs’ performances in five previous Champions League and Europa League seasons. Slot two: awarded to the domestic league champion with the highest club coefficient among all other domestic champions that have not automatically qualified for the Champions League’s league stage. Slots three and four: awarded to the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the Europa Conference League (due to start in the 2021/22 season).

Sky was happy to fund the champions league for years. It may not be the closed shop the ESL would've been but its very close. UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin welcomed the withdrawal of Manchester City from the proposed Super League. He said: “I am delighted to welcome City back to the European football family. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's already happening on sky 🤣🤣🤣

Fantastic. 😎

I suspect this will happen. Carragher and Neville can now stop the moral outrage and get back to their big paid jobs with the company that started all this shit 30 years ago. A pair of fucking hypocrites

Agree with this, if anything it will make uefa think they're doing the right thing.

Super league dead according to talksport.

Super league dead according to talksport

Man City the next to withdraw

And this what gets me......player revolts, fans protesting but what's the end game, a return to the status quo which is only slightly better than what was proposed.

Sky would jump at the chance of these rights, their new found morals would be flushed down the toilet if they were offered the rights to the ESL.

I hope you are right but the way I see it, UEFA and the EPL are on one side whilst these clubs are on the other, neither of those sides want fair competition, UEFA certainly don't, this is almost a competition between both sides to see who can be the most greedy cunt🤣🤣

I believe its too late to sort it. These super rich clubs have too much power. There's no way they'd want to see a return of competitive football.

I know its a different ball game BUT this current system is also broken. If you have deep enough pockets you can buy success. Competition has been destroyed long before this latest proposal. Neville and sky just support a slightly lighter of it. An example is the CL, look at it in its current form. There's 32 spaces already taken with 6 available to others who have to climb a mountain to get there. Nobody will convince me that's competitive and fair. I hear pish from fans down here like the spirit is being ripped out football, that's honestly hilarious coming from any fan of the EPL because the spirit was ripped from football, chewed up and spat out long before now.

I disagree, he's bought success, that for me is part of the problem. Buying success this way therefore strangling competition is ok but stranging competition by setting up a closed league isn't. Both are absolutely wrong. Football needs a rest button to bring it back to when it wasn't about the deepest pockets = success. Sky and neville are shitting it because their baby is under threat right now.

We were at full strength against the Czech c team, most teams at the Euros will be hit with reduced squads too. I actually can't see a situation where UEFA, the EPL or La Liga kick their clubs out or UEFA refuse to let players play at the Euros. They'll either meet the super rich clubs in the middle or they will cave.

Not sure why another thread was required but anyway Neville isn't just a hypocrite for what he does at Salford he's a hypocrite because he thinks the current system is fine. The current system allows the rich boys to stay at the top, yes I agree this new proposal is worse but it's the next logical step and has been on the cards for a long time. Ex man utd players can get all angry if they want, their club has been at the heart of this for years, they've been part of a group of around a dozen clubs who have strangled competition and sporting integrity out completion for the last 30 years but now its a step too far? Really? It's been a step to far since UEFA started offering 2nd, 3rd place teams automatic places in Europes Premier competition.