glasgow jock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Most of us have as much as 3% Neanderthal DNA (apparently) - our ancestors must have been desperate - mating with those ugly feckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) On 15 June 2016 at 11:34 AM, duncan II said: Anyone see the Ch4 documentary - Yeti: Man, Myth or Beast, or something like that - that was on couple of weeks ago? Had taped it and just watched it there. So many locals convinced they'd seen one and it exists in folk legend almost everywhere across the Himalayas. Some samples of hair, feet etc had been collected by those who thought they'd seen it. All these came back as different species of bear - black bear and two different kinds of brown bear. So seems a bit of a dead end and disappointing result. BUT, and perhaps even more interestingly, a different hypothesis was proposed. The fact that belief in this is so widespread is perhaps due to folk memory of a different species of human existing until relatively recently. The Tibetans have a mutation that allows them to live at high altitudes with little oxygen. Turns out an extinct and little known sub-species of human - whose remains have been found in, I think, Siberia or somewhere also had the same gene mutation (Denisovans - had to look that up there). Plausible that they migrated to the Himalayas, inter-bred with humans on occasion but were generally feared as mountain dwellers. Over time they eventually became extinct but humans who had inherited this ability to live in high altitudes gradually replaced them in these areas and they lived on in folk memory as beasts to be feared. I find it quite convincing. According to DNA, they plausibly could have bred with humans as little as 7,000 years ago. Could folk memory last this long? Well, he gave as an example the existence of folk stories about little people in Indonesia that everyone thought were just stories. But remains were found of a tiny human species in Indonesia (you might remember, it was in the news ten years ago or so - Homo floresiensis - called the hobbit by the press) and it is dated to about 15,000 years, I think. So it is totally plausible that folk memory lasts as long. Also, folk tales of floods and other cataclysmic events that exist in many cultures are thought to come from memory of real events passed down over countless generations. Anyway, it would be sad if yetis don't exist, but the fact that creatures like that are remembered by societies of humans today is, for me, equally as exciting. Any alternative theories? I've often thought along these lines, that elves, bogeymen etc were racial memories of other humanoid species. Edited October 26, 2016 by biffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, glasgow jock said: Most of us have as much as 3% Neanderthal DNA (apparently) - our ancestors must have been desperate - mating with those ugly feckers I've never even been to Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Fairbairn said: I've never even been to Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, glasgow jock said: Most of us have as much as 3% Neanderthal DNA (apparently) - our ancestors must have been desperate - mating with those ugly feckers It's the same as putting the baws to a Rangers fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6 hours ago, glasgow jock said: Most of us have as much as 3% Neanderthal DNA (apparently) - our ancestors must have been desperate - mating with those ugly feckers have some of us not also got DNA from this mongolian area ? https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-descendants-of-the-Huns-today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6 hours ago, glasgow jock said: Most of us have as much as 3% Neanderthal DNA (apparently) - our ancestors must have been desperate - mating with those ugly feckers Maybe it was the Neanderthals that were desperate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, euan2020 said: have some of us not also got DNA from this mongolian area ? https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-descendants-of-the-Huns-today Yes we are all part Hun. No matter how desperate some folk might be to deny it. It might explain why some Arabs seem to be more interested in Rangers than they are their own team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Yes we are all part Hun. No matter how desperate some folk might be to deny it. It might explain why some Arabs seem to be more interested in Rangers than they are their own team? Ya dancer! That'll save me a fortune in toothpaste this week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 16 hours ago, Orraloon said: Maybe it was the Neanderthals that were desperate? Fair point - we're heading their way sometime soon anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide Tackle Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 No yeti sighting in 30 years. Personally believe that at some stage they did exist but have died out now, maybe due to the lack of mating partner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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