DaveyDenoon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Auld_Reekie said: Good god Idiocy on an industrial scale still rampant I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenmann Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I wasn't a big Murdo fan (despite him being a Bear) but a couple of his encounters with Mackay have been highly enjoyable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 New Forth bridge open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Toepoke said: New Forth bridge open Not yet it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I see that all sorts of yoon-leaning folk, who have been criticising the whole idea of this bridge, are now trying to bask in reflected glory. Labour cancelled the project about 20 years ago and since then they have done nothing but moan about it and try to block it - the Scottish government has taken control of the project and paid for it despite the efforts of the "too wee too poor too stupid" brigade to deny finance to implement it and stop it by any means fair or foul. They described it as a "vanity project". Now we have the ridiculous sight of Gordon Brown eulogising the bridge and trying to claim it as British. No it's not, Gordon. It's a Scottish bridge and let's hope they keep that blue and white lighting scheme forever just to GIRFUY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 do you have to pay to go across ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, wellyman said: do you have to pay to go across ? No. There's no tolls on any bridge in Scotland now. Eventually the new bridge will be used for private vehicles, while the old solely for public transport and taxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The old bridge must be seriously knackered, if that is all the traffic that it is considered safe to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Irrespective of party allegiance the bridge is a cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, Parklife said: No. There's no tolls on any bridge in Scotland now. Eventually the new bridge will be used for private vehicles, while the old solely for public transport and taxis. I think the old bridge will also be used for non-motorway and local traffic. I'm not sure whether they are putting in place formal restrictions of it'll just be traffic management, ie., the bulk of the private and commercial traffic will go over the new bridge as its part of the motorway network and do will be quicker. There'll be situations where the new bridge will be closed and traffic will be diverted onto the old bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, jailender said: The old bridge must be seriously knackered, if that is all the traffic that it is considered safe to carry. There's a serious amount of maintenance work to get done to it once the new bridge opens. All the patched up repairs that nursed it through the past few years will need to be made more permanent. As aaid says it's got the potential to be used for local traffic although I wouldn't have thought they'll need formal restrictions on who uses the original bridge when most of the traffic will be taking the new faster crossing. The bridge was built to last until the 2080s, so once it's been refurbished and the traffic numbers reduced then you'd like to think their won't be too many issues with it outside of windy weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hour long queues to cross it this morning apparently. "Must be first, must be first".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I can't see it being cost effective to do the repairs referred to above and then ongoing maintenance just for public transport, At some point it will be used for local traffic I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: Hour long queues to cross it this morning apparently. "Must be first, must be first".... A car and a truck broke down apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I would have thought that they would have left open the option to use the old bridge, for folk who wanted to use that for the first few days. Until the novelty value of the the new one wore off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Will it be lit up like that all the time? Looks quite impressive. Ive been coming home from Dundee/Aberdeen via the old bridge on occasion to avoid the queue at the Broxden roundabout, would imagine even without traffic it's now a 50/50 call for anywhere east of glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, sbcmfc said: Will it be lit up like that all the time? Looks quite impressive. Ive been coming home from Dundee/Aberdeen via the old bridge on occasion to avoid the queue at the Broxden roundabout, would imagine even without traffic it's now a 50/50 call for anywhere east of glasgow. The queue at the craigforth roundabout (just at Dunblane, i think that's what it's called) is normally much worse than the Broxden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFootSoldier Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Looking at the pictures looks like the new bridge has a hard shoulder but no cycle/pedestrian access. Anyone know if this is right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Three lanes, but no pedestrian access permitted, as far as I know. Not sure about cyclists. Edited August 30, 2017 by jailender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, McFootSoldier said: Looking at the pictures looks like the new bridge has a hard shoulder but no cycle/pedestrian access. Anyone know if this is right ? Aye, it's a motorway so no cyclists or pedestrians once it's fully operational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, McFootSoldier said: Looking at the pictures looks like the new bridge has a hard shoulder but no cycle/pedestrian access. Anyone know if this is right ? Correct they'll need to use the old bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 After a few days it's supposed to become the M90 (so, no non-motorway traffic allowed) and so finally connect the Fife/Perth/Kinross bit of the M90 into the national network... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Parklife said: The queue at the craigforth roundabout (just at Dunblane, i think that's what it's called) is normally much worse than the Broxden! No that monster is the Keir Roundabout... if on that road usually divert through Dunblane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 hours ago, Mark frae Crieff said: No that monster is the Keir Roundabout... if on that road usually divert through Dunblane. Ahh, thanks for the correction. Is the Craigforth the one just off the A9/mortorway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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