PASTA Mick Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 There isn't a polite way to say this but anyone that doesn't want Wales from pot 1 is mental or not really into football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 There isn't a polite way to say this but anyone that doesn't want Wales from pot 1 is mental or not really into football. Or is more concerned with a "better" away trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I would take Croatia Bosnia Scotland Faroes Latvia Liechtenstein If I could choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Not had Lithuania and the Faroes in a while...... that must be pots 4 and 5 set in stone already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Wales Iceland Scotland Faroe Islands Moldova San Marino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart_lynch Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Wales Iceland Scotland Faroe Islands Moldova San Marino Swap Moldova for Cyprus and that's the best group I think. The fact Wales are ranked higher than Spain, Italy and France is ridiculous, although I'm not sure what a better system would be. Edited July 9, 2015 by braveheart_lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loch_Sloigh Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Remember the Welsh being so down about their team just before we played them in Cardiff . Look at them now. Gareth Bale. Would take them as first seeds though they have been our bogey team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsefox Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Swap Moldova for Cyprus and that's the best group I think. The fact Wales are ranked higher than Spain, Italy and France is ridiculous, although I'm not sure what a better system would be. The rankings really are a joke. Spain are the reigning Euro champions, qualify without losing (?), had a bad World Cup then end up 11th?! England haven't lost a qualifier since 2009!! How in God's green earth are Wales even remotely comparable to that?? I suppose it's very easy to jump up the rankings when you beat sides higher ranked than you but harder to hold onto it once you get there. The only way for quality teams to retain their rankings is to beat other good sides at the Euros/World Cup when the extra points are up for grabs. On the reverse, if you lose your three groups games you gain nothing and add an extra three games for your yearly points to be averaged over. Seems like a pretty perverse system. (All other things remaining the same) A team finishing second in a qualifying group could easily have a higher world ranking than the team that qualifies for the World Cup because they lose point at the Finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Spain are the reigning Euro champions, qualify without losing (?), had a bad World Cup then end up 11th?! They have already lost to Slovakia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) It really is a poor way to decide the seedings, but it is what it is and we'll have to live with it for now. Given that only the group winners are guaranteed to qualify I'd take Croatia, Romania or Wales from Pot1... Edited July 9, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanSpice Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Romania Denmark Scotland Israel Cyprus Malta Never been to Romania and their stadium looks banging. A trip back to Copenhagen would be cool. Probably never go to Israel if it wouldn't be for football, and a couple of nice warm visits for the last two pots. Top trips and not an impossible group to get out of. Odds are we'll end up with a pretty dull and repetitive group with one outrageous trip though. Belgium Czech Rep Scotland Norway Lithuania Kazahkstan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I'd take Croatia or Romania before Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Remember the Welsh being so down about their team just before we played them in Cardiff . Look at them now. Gareth Bale. Would take them as first seeds though they have been our bogey team. I would take them out of pot 1 - An injury to Bale and there fecked ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Fit ye on aboot? Scotland's an awful holiday destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 There isn't a polite way to say this but anyone that doesn't want Wales from pot 1 is mental or not really into football. Agreed A one man team without Bale on form for a full campaign they are f**ked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Agreed A one man team without Bale on form for a full campaign they are f**ked Yeah....Aaron Ramsey and Ashley Williams are shit players ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I don't think Wales are a 1 man team but the alternatives to Wales include Spain and Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yeah....Aaron Ramsey and Ashley Williams are shit players ...... They are decent enough but hugely over rated because of the league they play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 They are decent enough but hugely over rated because of the league they play in. Ah I think Ramsey is a fantastic player mate Would love to have Williams in green Will agree to disagree on that one. Even after those. ..wales have some very decent players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I don't think Wales are a 1 man team but the alternatives to Wales include Spain and Germany. True but I'd prefer Romania ahead of wales also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 They are decent enough but hugely over rated because of the league they play in. Ramsey and Williams would both walk into our first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Wales have scored 8 goals in there group and 5 of those goals were scored by Bale, in two of those games he was definately the match winner and one of those games was against Andorra !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanDave Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ramsey and Williams would both walk into our first team. Agreed, along with a few others, a combined team would look something like this I'd say, Marshall Matthews Williams Martin Robertson/Taylor Brown Ramsey Morrison (Ledley or Allen could have a case over Morrison) Bale Fletcher/Naismith Maloney/Anya 4,3,3 formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 They should go back to seedings being based on where you finished in the last qualifying campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Man for Man I think there is very little between us and Wales, with probably the only differences being they have Bale, but we have the better goalkeepers and more depth of squad. Wales do seem to have a very settled first team, but just a couple of injuries does seem to send them into a flap..... Whereas if we are missing a vital player, we at least have a couple of ok options there as ready replacements (ie Croatia away we were down to the barebones, yet now Strachans first team is almost made up fully of players from that team). As we found out when we got to the dizzy heights of 15ish, it's one thing getting there and another thing staying there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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