Scotland Ever More Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Eisegerwind said: Ach, I'm torn. However the subject wouldn't have come up had we shown ourselves to have a bit of self belief 4 years ago. And I am certainly in no position to start making judgements on a Scottish legend. We'd still have the same monarch, even if we had voted yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I thought it was always ' King' Kenny. Why the demotion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Yes what's yer point, as per usual Scots are happy to bow down to some foreign queen but that's ok he was good at football so we will let him off. Principles are needed if this country wants to be independent and as I expected excuses for this man will come out the woodwork because he happened to be a good football player for us. I said the same of Andy Murray. Anybody who bows down to that shower deserve nothing but contempt. You are a total moron. The current Queen is actually descended from the Kings and Queens of Scotland. So she actually is our Queen. Whether you care for the royal family or not, your attitude is that of a pathetic wee kid. It reeks of inferiority. The man has been rewarded for his substantial charity work and you post this shite. Congratulations on being the biggest bellend on the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Scotland Ever More said: We'd still have the same monarch, even if we had voted yes. Exactly. Independence changes heehaw with regards to the royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Regardless of it being an outdated system it's more these days to do with recognition and there are few who deserve it more You can still accept the recognition and want Scotland to be politically Independent See Andy Murray, Sean Canary et al Should that not be Shorn Canary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggycoo Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Should that not be Shorn Canary? Seen Canary?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Hertsscot said: I thought it was always ' King' Kenny. Why the demotion? Aye, that's what I was thinking. He should be the one dishing out the honours, if anyone has to. This is just typical of the british state to downgrade high achieving Scots in order to continue with the subjugation. Fukin parasites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Aye, that's what I was thinking. He should be the one dishing out the honours, if anyone has to. This is just typical of the british state to downgrade high achieving Scots in order to continue with the subjugation. Fukin parasites. So the big question is, would it be King Kenny or President Kenny as Head of State when Scotland gets independence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: So the big question is, would it be King Kenny or President Kenny as Head of State when Scotland gets independence? Mibbes aye, mibbes naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Mibbes aye, mibbes naw That is the correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 When his name came up on the breaking news last night, I thought he was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Speak for yourself. Don't need to, the country spoke 4 years ago and showed we are pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Lets not forget Sir William Wallace Also i'm not sure the current Royal Family are descendents of any previous Scottish King or Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Also i'm not sure the current Royal Family are descendents of any previous Scottish King or Queen Really? Yes they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: You are a total moron. The current Queen is actually descended from the Kings and Queens of Scotland. So she actually is our Queen. Whether you care for the royal family or not, your attitude is that of a pathetic wee kid. It reeks of inferiority. The man has been rewarded for his substantial charity work and you post this shite. Congratulations on being the biggest bellend on the boards. I like to think for myself, I have no queen, I don't need some unelected person ruling over me. If you like that kind of thing perhaps you are the one who needs to grow up. The British monarchy are disgrace to a modern civilized society. If Kenny wants to accept a knighthood from them then sadly he has lost a lot of respect I had for the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: I like to think for myself, I have no queen, I don't need some unelected person ruling over me. If you like that kind of thing perhaps you are the one who needs to grow up. The British monarchy are disgrace to a modern civilized society. If Kenny wants to accept a knighthood from them then sadly he has lost a lot of respect I had for the guy. In what sense are you ruled over by the queen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, kumnio said: When his name came up on the breaking news last night, I thought he was dead. I thought he was deid aswell when I heard talkSPORT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: I like to think for myself, I have no queen, I don't need some unelected person ruling over me. If you like that kind of thing perhaps you are the one who needs to grow up. The British monarchy are disgrace to a modern civilized society. If Kenny wants to accept a knighthood from them then sadly he has lost a lot of respect I had for the guy. … and how does having a monarch prevent anyone thinking for themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: In what sense are you ruled over by the queen? Her and her wee tribe have ruled over ppl for centuries causing mostly misery for normal people. She probably has very little bearing over my life today but she is still head of state and she swallows up disgusting amounts of public money and has influence over the country when really she should have none. Monarchy is a fine example of what's wrong with society and the inequalities they represent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: … and how does having a monarch prevent anyone thinking for themselves? Well do you want someone and their family who is unelected in charge of you and all yer future generations. If so then you defo have a problems being able to think for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Also i'm not sure the current Royal Family are descendents of any previous Scottish King or Queen The queen is a direct descendent of James VI eldest daughter (who was also called Liz) Edited June 9, 2018 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Well do you want someone and their family who is unelected in charge of you and all yer future generations. If so then you defo have a problems being able to think for yourself. I do think for myself, honestly. She's not 'in charge' of me. She's a constitutional monarch - same as in Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark - most of northern Europe. What's the point of having an elected apolitical head of state? It simply causes a potential democratic clash with the elected government. There's no inherent advantage in increasing layers of democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: Really? Yes they are. 14 minutes ago, Toepoke said: The queen is a direct descendent of James VI eldest daughter (who was also called Liz) Obviously i am aware of the narrative It just seems all too convenient Things like this https://www.express.co.uk/news/history/542802/The-Queen-royal-throne-DNA-shock-Richard-III-genetic-discovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Obviously i am aware of the narrative It just seems all too convenient Things like this https://www.express.co.uk/news/history/542802/The-Queen-royal-throne-DNA-shock-Richard-III-genetic-discovery Aye, slap us down with an Express story. You were talking about their being 'descendants' - we don't need the Express to tell us that the current monarch isn't a 'direct' descendant, as in pure primogeniture. That's what the whole Act of Settlement was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, DonnyTJS said: Really? Yes they are. Are you assuming that their ancestors are all fathered by who they think they are? Like a lot of folk still think with Harry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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