Eisegerwind Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just seem to be a random assortment of nonentities prepared to push their own pet theories and conclusions without the slightest shred of evidence, tbh I stopped watching after some suit from a company that manufactures protctive gear (who's got contacts apparently!) informed me that.,' only Russia has manufactured Novichoks and it'd be a billion to one possibility that it wasn't them''. Cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Orraloon said: You're even more cynical than me and phart. No, I'm a wee bit less than LD50 (human), you two are off the scale! No antidote for that apparently i don't even know what the LD means - likely to develop maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mindimoo said: No, I'm a wee bit less than LD50 (human), you two are off the scale! No antidote for that apparently i don't even know what the LD means - likely to develop maybe? Lethal Dose. Sorry should have mentioned that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Just seem to be a random assortment of nonentities prepared to push their own pet theories and conclusions without the slightest shred of evidence, tbh I stopped watching after some suit from a company that manufactures protctive gear (who's got contacts apparently!) informed me that.,' only Russia has manufactured Novichoks and it'd be a billion to one possibility that it wasn't them''. Cunt. To be fair that could go for the last couple of pages in this thread too. No one knows anything really but can still smell shite. Edited March 22, 2018 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, phart said: To be fair that could go for the last page in this thread too. No one knows anything really but can still smell shite. Yeah, but if Mr Protective Gear Manufacturer opens a bookies I'll be right in there with my 50p.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Yeah, but if Mr Protective Gear Manufacturer opens a bookies I'll be right in there with my 50p.. Ooh, there is that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 We still don't know if the Russians did it or not, and it appears that Porton Down scientists aren't sure either. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 23/03/2018 at 5:22 PM, Orraloon said: We still don't know if the Russians did it or not, and it appears that Porton Down scientists aren't sure either. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk Nicky Campbell on BBC just now, 6.45, interviewing John Mann. Campbell seems to be alleging that Craig Murray is anti Semitic because he linked speculation of non Russian source of poisoning to Israel and Friends of Israel in Labour Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Nicky Campbell on BBC just now, 6.45, interviewing John Mann. Campbell seems to be alleging that Craig Murray is anti Semitic because he linked speculation of non Russian source of poisoning to Israel and Friends of Israel in Labour Party. That's nothing new, he's been labeled anti semitic before. It seems to be an accepted tactic with some folk. They try to tell us that anybody who criticises the Israeli state is anti semitic. It's a tactic that seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 John Mann is also a grade A arsehole as well, so I wouldn't pay any attention to what he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, aaid said: John Mann is also a grade A arsehole as well, so I wouldn't pay any attention to what he says. I wasn't paying too much attention to John Mann, it was more what could be considered an attempt to smear an influnential supporter of Scottish independence. There was some discussion between Campbell and Mann around whether Murray wa s a member of the Labour Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: I wasn't paying too much attention to John Mann, it was more what could be considered an attempt to smear an influnential supporter of Scottish independence. There was some discussion between Campbell and Mann around whether Murray wa s a member of the Labour Party. I doubt it would have had anything at all to do with Scottish Independence. John Mann is only interested in one thing and that is doing whatever he can to smear Corbyn. Craig Murray was certainly a member of the SNP in 2014/15 as he attempted to become a candidate for the 2015 UK general election but failed the vetting. Edited March 26, 2018 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, aaid said: I doubt it would have had anything at all to do with Scottish Independence. John Mann is only interested in one thing and that is doing whatever he can to smear Corbyn. Craig Murray was certainly a member of the SNP in 2014/15 as he attempted to become a candidate for the 2015 UK general election but failed the vetting. The link to Scottish independence was the fact that Craig Murray's name was brought up and introduced into the topic by Nicky Campbell, not John Mann. I just felt that the specific reference was unusual and unnecessary. Unless of course its Murrays comment son the Russian poisoning that have got someone at the BBC rattled, it felt like Murray's name had been introduced into the debate for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, aaid said: I doubt it would have had anything at all to do with Scottish Independence. John Mann is only interested in one thing and that is doing whatever he can to smear Corbyn. Craig Murray was certainly a member of the SNP in 2014/15 as he attempted to become a candidate for the 2015 UK general election but failed the vetting. He was speaking at independence events last week according to his blog. Edited March 26, 2018 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, phart said: He was speaking at independence events last week according to his blog. Yes, he's a well known supporter. My point was that not everything is about Scottish Independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, aaid said: Yes, he's a well known supporter. My point was that not everything is about Scottish Independence. That depends on who you are I agree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, phart said: That depends on who you are I agree though. I wouldn't disagree. The conversation between Mann and Campbell was about Corbyn and anti semitism in the Labour Party. I was and remain suspicious why Murray was dragged into it, particularly as neither Campbell, who introduced Murray into the discussion, or Mann seemed particularly familiar with him. It felt like an attempt to smear, whether for Murray's support for independence stance or for other opinions in his blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Hertsscot said: I wouldn't disagree. The conversation between Mann and Campbell was about Corbyn and anti semitism in the Labour Party. I was and remain suspicious why Murray was dragged into it, particularly as neither Campbell, who introduced Murray into the discussion, or Mann seemed particularly familiar with him. It felt like an attempt to smear, whether for Murray's support for independence stance or for other opinions in his blog. It's probably cause Murray mentioned that Israel hadn't signed the nuclear proliferation treaty or OPCW treaties. Which was interpreted as him saying Israel had done it. That meant he was getting heat the weak previously as anti-Semitic. So probably an attempt to associate the two and the charge of Anti-Semiticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Seems it was sprayed on the guy's front door. Hope his postman is ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hang on pet ..ill just get the door shut ..aw shyte ive dropped the nerve agent all over the step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 4:58 PM, aaid said: I doubt it would have had anything at all to do with Scottish Independence. John Mann is only interested in one thing and that is doing whatever he can to smear Corbyn. Craig Murray was certainly a member of the SNP in 2014/15 as he attempted to become a candidate for the 2015 UK general election but failed the vetting. he failed vetting? any reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, PapofGlencoe said: he failed vetting? any reason? He couldn't give full commitment to group discipline issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Mr S. getting better it seems.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No. Ms S improving. He is still critical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/28/senior-tory-mps-accused-of-accepting-money-from-former-soviet-states?CMP=share_btn_tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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