er yir macaroon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 So now he’s gone we need a new defensive holding midfielder. For me the immediate candidate is McGinn. Others could be Tierney, McRorie or McTominay (maybe). Ethan Hamilton could be another further down the line if he makes it at Man Utd. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I think McGinn has been getting groomed to take over from Brown when the time come (as you said, that is the obvious one) with a chance for McGregor also now that Brown is not a option. McTominay another possibility depending on if he joins us or not. I do not think this is as bad as last time he chucked it, as there is 3/4 young players who could do well if given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 McGinn is the natural successor both immediately and in the long term or until someone better appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 McGinn, simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 McGinn,, Mctominey can challenge once he decides if he's scottish or english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 If McGinn is the best we have forget any tournaments in the forseeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Brassrubber said: If McGinn is the best we have forget any tournaments in the forseeable The seethe is strong in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: McGinn,, Mctominey can challenge once he decides if he's scottish or english He decided when asked previously.Hes english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Brassrubber said: If McGinn is the best we have forget any tournaments in the forseeable I agree, I think he is overrated. Nobody gives the ball away or loses it in possession by pushing his arse into the defender more than John McGinn. If the Hibs didn't have a song for him he'd get slaughtered in the same manner Fraser Fyvie was Sadly though he probably is the best young midfielder ready for international football at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I don't rate mcginn that highly either, guys a poor replacement for brown. Mccrorie would be better imo or mctominay if he chooses us. We also have cairney who I would rather over mcginn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 There's really 2 questions on this thread isn't there? Position - holding midfield enforcer. Captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Well we do need somewhere to play Tierney..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, Langtonian said: He decided when asked previously.Hes english You seem to have great knowledge on the subject, I assume you were there when he was asked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, McDange said: There's really 2 questions on this thread isn't there? Position - holding midfield enforcer. Captain Question 1 - Suppose it comes down to the formation/style McLeish uses (at the moment everyone is assuming he will use the exact same tactics as Strachan) so remains to be seen, but as said, I think (on paper) McGinn is the natural successor. Question 2 - Obvious candidates are Darren Fletcher and James Morrison, but neither are automatic starters/fit as they used to be.... after this you start talking about guys like Berra, Hanley, Snodgrass.... not really a stand out candidate. I actually think Tierney is a good shout to keep hold of the arm band after doing a good job v the Dutch. But, again, both questions will be answered by how Eck sets up his teams. Edited February 26, 2018 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, wanderer said: I think McGinn has been getting groomed to take over from Brown when the time come (as you said, that is the obvious one) with a chance for McGregor also now that Brown is not a option. McTominay another possibility depending on if he joins us or not. I do not think this is as bad as last time he chucked it, as there is 3/4 young players who could do well if given the chance. Mcgregor is shockingly bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 there is also the question of balance. McGinn is left-footed, McTominay right so would be good for midfield 2. Cairney I think is more of a number 10? McCrorie or McDonald of Wolves are also possibles to complement McGinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: I agree, I think he is overrated. Nobody gives the ball away or loses it in possession by pushing his arse into the defender more than John McGinn. If the Hibs didn't have a song for him he'd get slaughtered in the same manner Fraser Fyvie was Sadly though he probably is the best young midfielder ready for international football at the minute Brown was terrible for losing possession just after winning it. Whatever his qualities passing aint one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 For me, in the defensive mid role, there's only really one. Kevin McDonald. In the playoffs yet again with Fulham, big, pyhsical, decent with a ball at his feet and very rarely gives possession away. The maybe list is headed by McTominay. I hope he picks us, but even if he does he'll likely be along side another defensive mid. For the rest: Bridcutt - Can't get in a poor Forest team after returning from injury. Jack - Don't trust his temperament still. Ok as a backup, backup right back i guess. Shinnie - Still not sure he's international class. Bannan - better further forward, like Cairney and Armstrong, in behind the strikers. McGinn - Good, but not a holding mid for me, more box to box. Could play along side one maybe. Coutts - Improved a lot, but not sure he's at the right level. Shame he'll miss the 4 friendlies. Still think our best lineup is something like this (much as i'd like to crowbar Ryan Fraser in there somehow): Gordon Lindsey - Mulgrew - Tierney Paterson - McDonald - Armstrong - McTominay - Robertson Griffiths - McBurnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, andyD said: For me, in the defensive mid role, there's only really one. Kevin McDonald. In the playoffs yet again with Fulham, big, pyhsical, decent with a ball at his feet and very rarely gives possession away. The maybe list is headed by McTominay. I hope he picks us, but even if he does he'll likely be along side another defensive mid. For the rest: Bridcutt - Can't get in a poor Forest team after returning from injury. Jack - Don't trust his temperament still. Ok as a backup, backup right back i guess. Shinnie - Still not sure he's international class. Bannan - better further forward, like Cairney and Armstrong, in behind the strikers. McGinn - Good, but not a holding mid for me, more box to box. Could play along side one maybe. Coutts - Improved a lot, but not sure he's at the right level. Shame he'll miss the 4 friendlies. Still think our best lineup is something like this (much as i'd like to crowbar Ryan Fraser in there somehow): Gordon Lindsey - Mulgrew - Tierney Paterson - McDonald - Armstrong - McTominay - Robertson Griffiths - McBurnie Think you could only do that if you go with a 3-4-3. Or a 4.3.3 Do we really need Mulgrew now? Looking to the future and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 48 minutes ago, andyD said: For me, in the defensive mid role, there's only really one. Kevin McDonald. In the playoffs yet again with Fulham, big, pyhsical, decent with a ball at his feet and very rarely gives possession away. The maybe list is headed by McTominay. I hope he picks us, but even if he does he'll likely be along side another defensive mid. For the rest: Bridcutt - Can't get in a poor Forest team after returning from injury. Jack - Don't trust his temperament still. Ok as a backup, backup right back i guess. Shinnie - Still not sure he's international class. Bannan - better further forward, like Cairney and Armstrong, in behind the strikers. McGinn - Good, but not a holding mid for me, more box to box. Could play along side one maybe. Coutts - Improved a lot, but not sure he's at the right level. Shame he'll miss the 4 friendlies. Still think our best lineup is something like this (much as i'd like to crowbar Ryan Fraser in there somehow): Gordon Lindsey - Mulgrew - Tierney Paterson - McDonald - Armstrong - McTominay - Robertson Griffiths - McBurnie McDonald is big but he’s not really physical or mobile in my, admittedly limited, experience of watching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Brown was terrible for losing possession just after winning it. Whatever his qualities passing aint one of them. Not true. He's one of the top midfielders in Europe when it comes to retaining possession. Both at club (European) and internationl level. There was a thread on here a while ago that proved the point. It's just the one time he does lose possession in a game the hampden crowd explodes with rage. So you remember it. A good example was the home game vs Slovenia where he bossed the entire match, then passed the ball out the park in the 88th minute and half the crowd went beserk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Why aren't we talking about Mulumbo. Best midfielder in Scotland right now. Other than him McGinn is the obvious choice for a run of games. See how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 What about Barry Douglas? Is he good enough to play Defensive Midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Morrisandmoo said: Not true. He's one of the top midfielders in Europe when it comes to retaining possession. Both at club (European) and internationl level. Brown has been a good player for Scotland but that comment is a little ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, andyD said: For me, in the defensive mid role, there's only really one. Kevin McDonald. In the playoffs yet again with Fulham, big, pyhsical, decent with a ball at his feet and very rarely gives possession away. The maybe list is headed by McTominay. I hope he picks us, but even if he does he'll likely be along side another defensive mid. For the rest: Bridcutt - Can't get in a poor Forest team after returning from injury. Jack - Don't trust his temperament still. Ok as a backup, backup right back i guess. Shinnie - Still not sure he's international class. Bannan - better further forward, like Cairney and Armstrong, in behind the strikers. McGinn - Good, but not a holding mid for me, more box to box. Could play along side one maybe. Coutts - Improved a lot, but not sure he's at the right level. Shame he'll miss the 4 friendlies. Still think our best lineup is something like this (much as i'd like to crowbar Ryan Fraser in there somehow): Gordon Lindsey - Mulgrew - Tierney Paterson - McDonald - Armstrong - McTominay - Robertson Griffiths - McBurnie Id certainly like to see Kev Macdonald given a chance in a few friendlies to see what he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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