aaid Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Sadly dead. Didn't look that good when he cancelled some gigs before Christmas. An absolute one-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Result of a fall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 He was a one off but I could never really get into The Fall and his autobiography was a hard read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) John Peel will be enjoying his company. Edited January 24, 2018 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: He was a one off but I could never really get into The Fall and his autobiography was a hard read. Yeah, there was a lot of ego there and he must've been a bastard to work with. On their night, a great live experience though. I've still got a wad of drunkenly scribbled lyric sheets he gave me stuffed in a drawer somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 Music's been wall to wall Fall for the past 2 hours. Somewhat appropriately ex-bandmate Marc Riley was on air to announce his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fierypict Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Just listening to this on 6 music.... I'd forgotten what a fckn genius he was.... Difficult, obstreperous, always on the edge of toys out the pram-ania... Nonetheless, fckn brilliant! Last time I saw them jings... about 15 years ago, jeez, as enigmatic as ever.... Band were great, MES walked off, band were still playing for another 10 minutes.... MES walked back on & said get the f... off the stage, end of gig... Haha, ach magic memories!!! I particularly liked one of the first quotes I read after hearing the news... 'Everyone in Heaven just became a member of the Fall'.... Sounds about right and he'll fall out with all of them! Edited January 24, 2018 by fierypict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Heard a story on 6 Music earlier where he'd staggered pished out of a Manchester pub and into a taxi. Only it was actually Badly Drawn Boy's car, he was waiting to pick a mate up. BDB recognised him and was happy to run him home, but MES didn't realise it wasn't actually a taxi, and upon discovering that he had no cash remaining, he left his leather jacket as payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 My first encounter with The Fall (and my only encounter with Michael Clarke's bare erse)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Sad news. A legend and one of a kind. You had to sift through a lot of shit to find some good Fall songs. A good few nuggets in there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 15 hours ago, aaid said: Sadly dead. Didn't look that good when he cancelled some gigs before Christmas. An absolute one-off. Had to google the lyrics to this (understandably). Pretty much sums up the way football went over the next 35 years. Visionary... Kicker, Kicker Conspiracy. Kicker, Kicker Conspiracy J. Hill's** satanic reign Ass-lickers King O'Team Kicker, Kicker Conspiracy x 2 In the marble halls of the charm school How flair is punished Under Marble Millichip***, the FA. broods On how flair can be punished They're guest is a Euro-State magnate How flair is punished K.K.C. X4 In the booze club, George Best**** does rule How flair is punished His downfall was a blonde girl, but that's none of your business! K. K. C. X 4 Former fan at the bus stop Treads on the ball at his feet, in the christmas rush And in his hands, two lager cans Talks to himself. At the back. At the top What are the implications of the club unit? Plastic, Slime, Partitions, Cocktail, Zig-Zag, Tudor Bar Pat McGatt. Pat McGatt, the very famous sports reporter is Talking......there FANS! ! ! "Remember, you are abroad! Remember the police are rough! Remember the unemployed! Remember my expense account! HOT DOGS AND SEAT FOR MR. HOGG !! HOT DOGS AND SEAT FOR MR. HOGG!!! AAAAAANNNNDDD HIS GROTTYSPAWN! ! ! ! Lurid brochures for ground unit Our style is punished K. K. C. X 5 Remember! don't collect with the rough K. K. C. X 1 Kicker, lets swell the facilities Kicker Conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Larky Masher said: I could never really get into The Fall Ditto Id go further and say i thought they were shite Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Didn't like the fall when I was a teenager but I've kinda grown into them as I've gotten older. Mark was definitely unique and had more bandmates than hot dinners. Edited January 25, 2018 by bonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Mark E Smith has looked on the way out for the last 10 years at least. My favourite track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 25/01/2018 at 7:53 AM, Toepoke said: My first encounter with The Fall (and my only encounter with Michael Clarke's bare erse)... Aye, I remember watching that. I'd known them for a fair while as the cousin of my sister's boyfriend of the time played keyboards in an early incarnation of the band (Yvonne Pawlett, she's on the cover of the 'It's the New Thing' single I linked to above). Despite meeting the bloke, enjoying the gigs and buying all the early singles and some later ones I don't think I ever really understood what was going on. I saw the Fall as a band rather than a Mark E Smith apolitical situationist project which would have been a better perspective, but I wouldn't have got that at the time anyway. Mark Radcliffe's show is worth listening to, especially for Stewart Lee, who did get it. Edited January 27, 2018 by DonnyTJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: especially for Stewart Lee, who did get it. 52 Fall gigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 6 hours ago, DonnyTJS said: Aye, I remember watching that. I'd known them for a fair while as the cousin of my sister's boyfriend of the time played keyboards in an early incarnation of the band (Yvonne Pawlett, she's on the cover of the 'It's the New Thing' single I linked to above). Despite meeting the bloke, enjoying the gigs and buying all the early singles and some later ones I don't think I ever really understood what was going on. I saw the Fall as a band rather than a Mark E Smith apolitical situationist project which would have been a better perspective, but I wouldn't have got that at the time anyway. Mark Radcliffe's show is worth listening to, especially for Stewart Lee, who did get it. Your sister's boyfriend's cousin being in The Fall is something half the population could claim, tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 43 minutes ago, aaid said: Your sister's boyfriend's cousin being in The Fall is something half the population could claim, tbf. Very true. I was just getting mine in first ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 7:45 AM, aaid said: Your sister's boyfriend's cousin being in The Fall is something half the population could claim, tbf. That sounds like you are implying that Donny's sister liked to spread it aboot a bit. How well did you know her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, Orraloon said: That sounds like you are implying that Donny's sister liked to spread it aboot a bit. How well did you know her? The other side of that equation - there were so many past members of the Fall that half the population could claim some sort of connection to one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) I didn’t know much of his music but any interviews with him were brilliant - this one is possibly the best: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/life-lessons-mark-e-smith-on-bullying-the-occult-and-why-stalin-had-the-right-idea-6260036.html Edited January 31, 2018 by neilser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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