Squirrelhumper Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, Alan said: If there are less renewals then there is less £ for the managers salary and coaching. Ha, do you work for the SFA? Unless you go to away games there is no point in renewing whatsoever. Even the England game last year was piss easy to get tickets for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Alan said: If there are less renewals then there is less £ for the managers salary and coaching. As there is no seperate accounting and membership money seems to get lumped into a pot outwith the SFA nobidy knows what the membership money is used for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I don't mind an increase in membership fees as long as the new manager is going to be given that money to sign a 20 goal a season striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweestevie Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: I don't mind an increase in membership fees as long as the new manager is going to be given that money to sign a 20 goal a season striker It would need to go up £572 each (based on 35k renewals) if we want Morelos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Tartan Army (Borders) Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Did I read somewhere that members were getting £5 off home tickets instead of the £3 we got for the last campaign , that would make it worth rejoining ? But if they put the joining fee up again, like the Hibs guy is predicting ,then after 30 years I'm calling it a day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm 1980 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 They might sell memberships for travelling fans obtaining tickets / points, but I think they will find it hard to sell a season ticket package based on the fixtures we know about in 2018 and the main EURO QUALIFIERS won't be known till 2nd December. There may be some "Mini Season Ticket" for this year, I also think they might dangle one point if you buy into a season ticket ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stockholm 1980 said: They might sell memberships for travelling fans obtaining tickets / points, but I think they will find it hard to sell a season ticket package based on the fixtures we know about in 2018 and the main EURO QUALIFIERS won't be known till 2nd December. There may be some "Mini Season Ticket" for this year, I also think they might dangle one point if you buy into a season ticket ? If they start dishing out points for home games then it makes a mockery of the situation. There's nothing wrong with the away points structure as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm 1980 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: If they start dishing out points for home games then it makes a mockery of the situation. There's nothing wrong with the away points structure as it is I agree with you, but who would buy a season ticket based on this years home fixtures. I wasn't meaning a point per home game, but a point for a season ticket purchase. Who knows what they will announce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: If they start dishing out points for home games then it makes a mockery of the situation. There's nothing wrong with the away points structure as it is Spot on. Leave the points system alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I have always thought home games should be worth a point. With away games worth 2 or 3 or more say. That way ALL fans get some acknowledgement for their support and not just those who can afford to travel the globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The whole system is wrong, it wasn't meant to form an elite clique for the rich and the lonely when it was introduced. You should get the same points for a home game as this will not effect the travelling support as they go to the home games too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Well good point too actually. When my finances were better i once got to 10 pts. Now I'm much worse off and pts down to zero. I can still make home games but away is beyond my thin wallet. Do i renew membership? After 20 yrs plus maybe this time no. Hurts to say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: The whole system is wrong, it wasn't meant to form an elite clique for the rich and the lonely when it was introduced. You should get the same points for a home game as this will not effect the travelling support as they go to the home games too. Sorry, that assertion is patently false. Many of us based overseas don't go to home games. We choose away games over home games because of our location on the globe, cost and the limitations of available annual leave. Edited January 26, 2018 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Sorry, that assertion is patently false. Many of us based overseas don't go to home games. We choose away games over home games because of our location on the globe, cost and the limitations of available annual leave. Agreed. I have attended probably 8 out of 10 away games over the years but very few home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: Agreed. I have attended probably 8 out of 10 away games over the years but very few home games. If you live in Carlisle you should get lynched the next time you cross the border for that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: If you live in Carlisle you should get lynched the next time you cross the border for that statement. That's uncalled for. Best you retire from the thread because you're out of your depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said: Sorry, that assertion is patently false. Many of us based overseas don't go to home games. We choose away games over home games because of our location on the globe, cost and the limitations of available annual leave. I don't think we are talking about many here. As things are away games are a closed shop to any one bar the very well off, the rest of us are treated like second class citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: That's uncalled for. Best you retire from the thread because you're out of your depth. So you think it is ok to call yourself a Scotland supporter and not go top the games if you live in Carlisle but go to away games. Out of curiosity what do you mean by out of my depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, ceudmilefailte said: I don't think we are talking about many here. As things are away games are a closed shop to any one bar the very well off, the rest of us are treated like second class citizens. I'll agree that we don't know the exact numbers, but it's more than a few - more like 200-250 in my experience. Away games are not closed shops - the rules are there for all to see. Interested in your second class citizens comment - care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Everyone started of on zero points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: I don't think we are talking about many here. As things are away games are a closed shop to any one bar the very well off, the rest of us are treated like second class citizens. Dont talk shite. Four of the last 10 games have been open to Zero pointers and a further two have been open to one pointers and I suspect two or three off the upcoming matches will be open to Zero pointers i suspect your gripe is you are only interested in the big games where tickets where hard to come by ie Germany, Ireland and France Edited January 26, 2018 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: I'll agree that we don't know the exact numbers, but it's more than a few - more like 200-250 in my experience. Away games are not closed shops - the rules are there for all to see. Interested in your second class citizens comment - care to elaborate? That amount is less than 1% of the current membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Written in 2009 and the author makes a few assumptions and guesses but the logic is fairly correct. http://www.tartanarmy.net/blog/2009/07/06/does-the-sfa-subsidise-or-profit-from-the-ssc/ A good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 And very few can afford to get off zero points. That's the problem with the whole system, and for me saying that those of us not on the ladder are getting treated like second class citizens even though we have as much passion for the national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: And very few can afford to get off zero points. So are you expecting someone else to pay your travel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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