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1 hour ago, Clyde1998 said:

SkyBet odds for Rangers manager for first game next season:

  • Frank De Boer - 3/1
  • Steve Clarke - 3/1
  • Alan Pardew - 6/1
  • Graeme Murty - 6/1
  • Alex Neil - 9/1
  • Michael O'Neill - 10/1
  • Derek McInnes - 12/1
  • Alex McLeish - 14/1
  • Glenn Hoddle - 14/1
  • Giovanni van Bronckhorst - 16/1
  • Jack Ross - 16/1
  • Robbie Neilson - 16/1
  • Billy Davies - 18/1
  • Mick McCarthy - 18/1
  • Neil Warnock - 20/1
  • Walter Smith - 20/1
  • Jaap Stam - 22/1
  • Paul Lambert - 22/1
  • Roberto Martinez - 22/1
  • Slaven Bilic - 22/1
  • Marco Silva - 25/1
  • Michel Preud'homme - 25/1
  • Patrick Kluivert - 25/1
  • Patrick Vieira - 25/1
  • Steve McClaren - 25/1
  • Stuart McCall - 25/1
  • Andrew Villas-Boas - 33/1

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It doesn't matter who they get as another rebuilding job is needed. The third in as many seasons. 

They let Warburton bring an entire new team in for the 16/17 season. They let Pedro do they same for this season. I'm not sure they made a good signing between them. 

The fans don't have the patience to let a manager build a team to try and compete but demand instant results which leads to players like Barton and Alves coming in.  

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5 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said:

It doesn't matter who they get as another rebuilding job is needed. The third in as many seasons. 

They let Warburton bring an entire new team in for the 16/17 season. They let Pedro do they same for this season. I'm not sure they made a good signing between them. 

The fans don't have the patience to let a manager build a team to try and compete but demand instant results which leads to players like Barton and Alves coming in.  

That's a fair summary but the board are also culpable with respect to both wanting instant results and sanctioning the buying of some utter diddies.

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:lol: Aye top job which surely puts to bed any delusion that Derek McInnes is a good manager. Dons should be way ahead points wise of Graham Murty's Rangers. If McInnes loses the two old Firm games coming up his job must be up for question. Having said that I hope Derek gets the Ibrox job ^_^

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13 hours ago, Larky Masher said:

That's a fair summary but the board are also culpable with respect to both wanting instant results and sanctioning the buying of some utter diddies.

The Board have been fucking it up since League 2. We overspent on too many Premier League players instead of just buying what was needed and putting in a playing style and bringing on the young players. 

Money could and should have been saved during the lower league seasons and we would have a solid base to build on now. We may even have found some sellable assets doing it that way. 

Instead we tried to buy instant success to pander to the idiotic impatient cretins. Until we get a board that's got the balls to give a manager time and ignore the phone in half wits we can't progress any further than where we are just now. 

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10 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said:

The Board have been fucking it up since League 2. We overspent on too many Premier League players instead of just buying what was needed and putting in a playing style and bringing on the young players. 

Money could and should have been saved during the lower league seasons and we would have a solid base to build on now. We may even have found some sellable assets doing it that way. 

Instead we tried to buy instant success to pander to the idiotic impatient cretins. Until we get a board that's got the balls to give a manager time and ignore the phone in half wits we can't progress any further than where we are just now. 

Spot on.

 

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39 minutes ago, ONeils4oyarder said:

said that at the time...there was absolutely no need to spunk all that money on over-the-hill players and SPL journeymen to play against the likes of Elgin and Montrose

Livi managed to go through the leagues (quicker than Rangers) spending a fraction of the money.

Gretna didn't even spend anywhere near the money Rangers did.

Paying guys like Kevin Kyle 5k or whatever is fucking suicidal.

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9 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said:

The Board have been fucking it up since League 2. We overspent on too many Premier League players instead of just buying what was needed and putting in a playing style and bringing on the young players. 

Money could and should have been saved during the lower league seasons and we would have a solid base to build on now. We may even have found some sellable assets doing it that way. 

Instead we tried to buy instant success to pander to the idiotic impatient cretins. Until we get a board that's got the balls to give a manager time and ignore the phone in half wits we can't progress any further than where we are just now. 

Totally correct. It was 100% an ego thing. I mind McCoist boasting in interviews about signing "Hearts' best player, Motherwell's best player and Killie's best player". 

As you say, the smart move was to build a philosophy and style of play throughout the club. A few Championship level players would've supplemented their young players and given them the protection from the lower league haddies, enabling them to play. 

Instead they signed Fran Sandaza and Kevin Kyle on huge wages and developed very few young players and, by most accounts, played terrible football. 

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6 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Livi managed to go through the leagues (quicker than Rangers) spending a fraction of the money.

Gretna didn't even spend anywhere near the money Rangers did.

Paying guys like Kevin Kyle 5k or whatever is fucking suicidal.

Apparently Kyle had a figure in his head for what he wanted when he went into the negotiations. "We" asked him how much he wanted and he said a figure well beyond what he actually wanted and we just gave him it. He couldn't believe it.

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34 minutes ago, theweestevie said:

Apparently Kyle had a figure in his head for what he wanted when he went into the negotiations. "We" asked him how much he wanted and he said a figure well beyond what he actually wanted and we just gave him it. He couldn't believe it.

That sounds very similar to the same story that gets trotted out every so often but I think started with Seth Johnson going into Peter Risdale's office to sign for Leeds.

"The legend goes that Johnson, earning around £5,000 a week at Derby County, went into negotiations with Leeds chairman Peter Ridsdale hoping for an increase to around £13,000 a week.

Ridsdale, however, offered £30,000, and then immediately upped that to £37,000 when his opening gambit was met with stunned silence from Johnson."

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6 hours ago, Parklife said:

Totally correct. It was 100% an ego thing. I mind McCoist boasting in interviews about signing "Hearts' best player, Motherwell's best player and Killie's best player". 

As you say, the smart move was to build a philosophy and style of play throughout the club. A few Championship level players would've supplemented their young players and given them the protection from the lower league haddies, enabling them to play. 

Instead they signed Fran Sandaza and Kevin Kyle on huge wages and developed very few young players and, by most accounts, played terrible football. 

This, and the most disappointing thing about this , they could have brought through a generation of new players for the Scottish International team.......

 

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1 hour ago, SMcoolJ said:

That sounds very similar to the same story that gets trotted out every so often but I think started with Seth Johnson going into Peter Risdale's office to sign for Leeds.

"The legend goes that Johnson, earning around £5,000 a week at Derby County, went into negotiations with Leeds chairman Peter Ridsdale hoping for an increase to around £13,000 a week.

Ridsdale, however, offered £30,000, and then immediately upped that to £37,000 when his opening gambit was met with stunned silence from Johnson."

 

I'm sure I heard Kevin Kyle himself tell the story on Radio Scotland.

 

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5 minutes ago, Big Col said:

 

I'm sure I heard Kevin Kyle himself tell the story on Radio Scotland.

 

He did. Whether its true or a big fat lie is moot. We certainly didn't show any financial restraint. 

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