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5 minutes ago, adamntg said:

That makes us 19th European team in FIFA rankings.  And yet we're listed as 27th in the Nations League list.

Mind you, probably better off in League C.

We would have to play against better teams in League B, right enough, but (and this might sound a wee bit daft) we would probably have at least as good a chance of getting into the playoffs.

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14 minutes ago, adamntg said:

That makes us 19th European team in FIFA rankings.  And yet we're listed as 27th in the Nations League list.

Mind you, probably better off in League C.

Is it not done based on ranking and UEFA co-efficient, perhaps how we are 27th?

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15 minutes ago, adamntg said:

That makes us 19th European team in FIFA rankings.  And yet we're listed as 27th in the Nations League list.

Mind you, probably better off in League C.

Nations League uses the Uefa Co-Efficient which is calculated a different way to the FIFA rankings though saying that I think had we won on Sunday we would have been in League B.

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On 10/11/2017 at 1:24 PM, Lion Rampant said:

Nations League uses the Uefa Co-Efficient which is calculated a different way to the FIFA rankings though saying that I think had we won on Sunday we would have been in League B.

Don't think a victory wouldn't have been enough to lift us into Division B. Turkey would have had to lose as well.

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2 hours ago, fringo said:

Where are the home nations?

Fifa rankings released

Scotland have moved up 14 positions to 29th in the world.

England have moved up three places to 12th.

Wales down 1 to 14th

Northern Ireland have dropped from 20 to 23.

 

http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html

 

anyone know where this leaves us in terms of seeding for the next draw?

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6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

anyone know where this leaves us in terms of seeding for the next draw?

The Fifa rankings won't be used for a draw, that we'll be involved in, until the WC 2022 qualifiers are drawn.

The draw for this is scheduled for July 2019. Depending on how FIFA guage the nations cup, as in do they see it as friendly matches or qualifying matches, those games will go a long way to determining our seeding for the WC qualifiers.

We'll have "proper" qualifying matches in March/June 2019 which will be important for that also.

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Just now, Lion Rampant said:

The Fifa rankings won't be used for a draw, that we'll be involved in, until the WC 2022 qualifiers are done.

The draw for this is scheduled for July 2019. Depending on how FIFA guage the nations cup, as in do they see it as friendly matches or qualifying matches, those games will go a long way to determining our seeding for the WC qualifiers.

We'll have "proper" qualifying matches in March/June 2019 which will be important for that also.

What about the next Euros? where do we stand with seedings for this? A world cup is outwith our reach

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Just now, vanderark14 said:

What about the next Euros? where do we stand with seedings for this? A world cup is outwith our reach

UEFA don't use the FIFA rankings to determine seedings for their qualifying groups. They use the national team co-efficient that was just used to split up the groups for the nations league.

Unless they want to try and use the nations league finishing positions to make up the pots for the Euro 2020 qualifying, then it will be the national team co-efficient that will be used. Either way, the Nations League games will be important in that regard.

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8 minutes ago, Lion Rampant said:

UEFA don't use the FIFA rankings to determine seedings for their qualifying groups. They use the national team co-efficient that was just used to split up the groups for the nations league.

Unless they want to try and use the nations league finishing positions to make up the pots for the Euro 2020 qualifying, then it will be the national team co-efficient that will be used. Either way, the Nations League games will be important in that regard.

could they make it anymore complicated? :lol:

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Based on the last UEFA rankings we sit 27th, which would put us as third seeds for the Euro Qualifying draw were it to be done now.

It's getting done in December 2018 so we need a decent showing in the Nations League to make sure we don't drop into the 4th seeds, especially as we have Slovenia, Greece and Serbia immediately below us.

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2 hours ago, fringo said:
2 minutes ago, Lion Rampant said:

Based on the last UEFA rankings we sit 27th, which would put us as third seeds for the Euro Qualifying draw were it to be done now.

It's getting done in December 2018 so we need a decent showing in the Nations League to make sure we don't drop into the 4th seeds, especially as we have Slovenia, Greece and Serbia immediately below us.

 

Any potential for us to get to pot 2 :lol:

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2 minutes ago, Lion Rampant said:

I'm sure they could give it a bash :lol:

I've had a read of it, its seems reasonable enough but my concern would that this would protect the so called bigger nations from playing lower ranked sides therefore making them less vulnerable to losing against a lower ranked team.

When UEFA do anything new, thats always what the aim is.

 

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1 minute ago, Lion Rampant said:

Probably not :lol:

Much harder to move up and down pots in the UEFA co-efficient in a short period of time

Ah well pot 3 by our standards is ok I suppose. With regards to the nations league, I actually quite fancy our chances here :wacko:

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2 hours ago, Lion Rampant said:

Based on the last UEFA rankings we sit 27th, which would put us as third seeds for the Euro Qualifying draw were it to be done now.

It's getting done in December 2018 so we need a decent showing in the Nations League to make sure we don't drop into the 4th seeds, especially as we have Slovenia, Greece and Serbia immediately below us.

They are using the Nations League places to determine the pots for Euro2020 qualification

The Four group winners from Division C will be in Pot 3 along with the two best second place teams (not sure if that's determined by UEFA rankings or results from Nations League). The remaining 9 teams will be in Pot 4.

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2 hours ago, wubbs said:

They are using the Nations League places to determine the pots for Euro2020 qualification

The Four group winners from Division C will be in Pot 3 along with the two best second place teams (not sure if that's determined by UEFA rankings or results from Nations League). The remaining 9 teams will be in Pot 4.

I thought I had read that somewhere, but wasn't sure.

Makes the Nations League games very important then.

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