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1 minute ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Well this would have been a long dead rubber if fans had their way. Martin was their devil incarnate and was booed on to the pitch at home to Slovenia and saved us as he did last Thursday. That proves that our fans are no great judge of who should or shouldn't play.

Bollocks. 

We might have won earlier matches with better selections and tactics. 

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1 minute ago, exile said:

So.... it's to be the hard luck story, so near so far, YET again.

What utterly baffles me is why managers don't make the necessary changes WHEN they are needed and when there is still time for them to work.   

 

Good managers do. We never go close to running midfield tonight, at any point.

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You can almost write his post match interview.

"Blah....blah......blah........ really proud of the boys. Blah......blah.......blah brave. Blah.....blah......blah it's no easy, first goals they conceded, massive credit to the boys. Blah.....blah.....blah rub of the green, bounce of the ball. Blah.....blah....blah...... thought Philips did brilliant.

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15 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

Of course they will.

Strachan will be praised to the heavens for 'almost' getting us to a play off spot.

Callum McGregor & John McGinn getting zero minutes in this double header while guys like Anya, Snodgrass & Martin get the usual game time sums up Strachans reign.

Needs a freshen up and some new ideas from a younger, less stubborn manager. 

 The fact that we had McGinn and McGregor on the bench and neither seen a single minute of action, yet the same players who have failed on this stage numerous times before are again given the chance is unforgivable. 

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Just now, kps022000 said:

You can almost write his post match interview.

"Blah....blah......blah........ really proud of the boys. Blah......blah.......blah brave. Blah.....blah......blah it's no easy, first goals they conceded, massive credit to the boys. Blah.....blah.....blah rub of the green, bounce of the ball. Blah.....blah....blah...... thought Philips did brilliant.

He better not mention the fact players don’t get paid for this again or I’ll need a new tv tomorrow, actually I’m switching it off now:lol:

Just now, Mox said:

 The fact that we had McGinn and McGregor on the bench and neither never seen a single minute of action, yet the same players who have failed on this stage numerous times before are again given the chance is unforgivable. 

Completely agree with this.

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4 minutes ago, Mox said:

Strachan is a manager who is over cautious and who employs the tactics of fear rather than expression and who is incapable of putting the best 11 players on the park prior to kick off. It has been pretty obvious that the last five results have relied more on luck rather than the managers ability to get the best out of the players and employ tactics that play to their strengths. Get him and the rest of his cronies to f u ck as soon as possible.

110% correct.. the quicker folk realise this the better. I keep repeating it but the way the delusional folk kept backing him is part of our downfall. A nation of losers who are happy with simply being in with a chance.

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4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Well this would have been a long dead rubber if fans had their way. Martin was their devil incarnate and was booed on to the pitch at home to Slovenia and saved us as he did last Thursday. That proves that our fans are no great judge of who should or shouldn't play.

It's not Martins fault he tries his best.

Strachan needs to be replaced, sadly another campaign has gone, a campaign he shouldn't even have been in charge for. 

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Poor (very poor) (utter shite) players being picked too often....

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No Mginn or Mcgregor who even now are better than Bannan and Mcarthur, tried and tested midfield were never at the races.

Far too late with Fletcher and Snodgrass to change the game. 

Would have accepted going out if we had tried to have a right go. Bannan, Mcarthur, Phillips out to start with, Mcginn, Mcgregor, Armstrong when fit in the team while Burke must come into it soon. Strachan stuck with the tried and tested who have failed before.

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Just now, macy37 said:

110% correct.. the quicker folk realise this the better. I keep repeating it but the way the delusional folk kept backing him is part of our downfall. A nation of losers who are happy with simply being in with a chance.

Just watch - same losers will back him again now!

 

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3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Well this would have been a long dead rubber if fans had their way. Martin was their devil incarnate and was booed on to the pitch at home to Slovenia and saved us as he did last Thursday. That proves that our fans are no great judge of who should or shouldn't play.

I think its fairly easy evaluate players on form. For example, remember when Griffiths wasn't picked? Strachan was proved wrong then. And yet he persists. McGinn? McGregor? Same old.

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4 minutes ago, Mox said:

Strachan is a manager who is over cautious and who employs the tactics of fear rather than expression and who is incapable of putting the best 11 players on the park prior to kick off. It has been pretty obvious that the last five results have relied more on luck rather than the managers ability to get the best out of the players and employ tactics that play to their strengths. Get him and the rest of his cronies to f u ck as soon as possible.

110% correct.. the quicker folk realise this the better. I keep repeating it but the way the delusional folk kept backing him is part of our downfall. A nation of losers who are happy with simply being in with a chance.

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So near yet so far. 

Missing out on bloody goal difference is a sickener yet seems appropriate for us and our luck. 

We got some breaks in this campaign, the amount of late goals snatching victories for us is uncanny but alas it still wasn't enough. 

Not This Time 

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3 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

It's not Martins fault he tries his best.

Strachan needs to be replaced, sadly another campaign has gone, a campaign he shouldn't even have been in charge for. 

Martin has made vital contributions in this campaign.

Scored the winner v Slovenia, involved in the winner the other night and he also won the free kick v England which lead to the Griffiths second.

That adds up to a decent amount of points.

He's obviously not good enough to be a starter but no issue with him being in the squad given what he's done in last 12 months.

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Michael Stewart spot on

Our fortunes improved with with our team having a good nucleus of Celtic players while they were doing well in Europe

Fvck knows why we were relying on Phillips, Bannan & MacArthur

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4 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said:

Bollocks. 

We might have won earlier matches with better selections and tactics. 

I think that if Strachan had adopted the idea of utilising Celtic's Scottish players sooner, we probably would've ended up in the play-offs. In the previous few games, there's been a clear difference as those players know how to play with each other. I'm disappointed that McGregor didn't get a go in this campaign, as I think he would've made a difference - even coming off of the bench. The team that started this campaign was radically different to the team yah ended it. It perhaps took Strachan too long to workout what the best combination was. If he does stay on for the Euro qualifiers, this will hopefully mean that we can get going much faster and not give ourselves too much to do at the end of the campaign.

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1 minute ago, Stu101 said:

I think its fairly easy evaluate players on form. For example, remember when Griffiths wasn't picked? Strachan was proved wrong then. And yet he persists. McGinn? McGregor? Same old.

Fans are not the greatest of judges either. Snoddy coming on was slated on here and he scores. Martin is constantly slated but has extended our hopes until now, Anya slated set up goal last Thursday etc etc etc. Armchair fans are in armchairs for a reason - because they are not qualified for non-league management never mind international football management.

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1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said:

Michael Stewart spot on

Our fortunes improved with with our team having a good nucleus of Celtic players while they were doing well in Europe

Fvck knows why we were relying on Phillips, Bannan & MacArthur

Exactly why Forrest and McGregor should have started tonight.

The reason we got this close was because of Brendan Rodgers, not Strachan. 

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Just now, Ally Bongo said:

Michael Stewart spot on

Our fortunes improved with with our team having a good nucleus of Celtic players while they were doing well in Europe

Fvck knows why we were relying on Phillips, Bannan & MacArthur

Yup. You build your team around players that are in form- eg the Celtic boys. And thats coming from a Rangers fan.

 

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1 minute ago, PASTA Mick said:

Exactly why Forrest and McGregor should have started tonight.

The reason we got this close was because of Brendan Rodgers, not Strachan. 

Even I agree that Forrest should be ahead of Phillips. McGregor or mcginn  should have started, the one who didn’t should have came on as sub.

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15 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

For me it was the Lithuania at Hampden match that crucified us. We were dire for 80 minutes of that match but we had so many chances late on we could have won it but only drew. Oh for us to have played for the full 90 there.

Aye - that was this campaign's Georgia.

Lithuania hardly did anything after that game which makes it an even more disappointing result. In the next campaign we have to beat every game against the team from pots 5/6 if we want to have any chance of qualifying - and get four points from everyone else (expect the top seeds).

It's a wonder why we hardly ever get twelve from twelve against the bottom two seeds.

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