Draw is enough

[Texas Pete]

21 minutes ago, todd said:

So are slovakia and Slovenia officially out? 

Neither are officially out but Slovenia are as good as out and Slovakia would need a few weird results to go their way I think. 

[COLT NY]

Slovenia need Gibraltar to beat Greece, and Malta to not lose to Slovakia.... and need to beat us of course.

At this point I think we can say they don't have too much to play for.... Gerrintaeummm!

[iainmac1]

7 hours ago, todd said:

So are slovakia and Slovenia officially out? 

While it's not official Slovenia are as good as out as they would need Gibraltar not to lose away to Greece. They also need Slovakia to not beat Malta at home. As it would then possibly come down to goal difference they would have to stick a few past us.

For Slovakia, they obviously need us to not win.

Senario 1. They would also need Greece to fail to beat Gibraltar at home.

Senario 2. A Croatia v Ukraine draw and a 3-0 win for Slovakia would do.

Senario 3. A Wales v Ireland draw and a 4-0 win.

So while Slovenia are as good as out, Slovakia have a couple of realistic scenarios that could see them get through.

Edited October 8, 2017 by iainmac1

[Toepoke]

1 hour ago, iainmac1 said:

While it's not official Slovenia are as good as out as they would need Gibraltar not to lose away to Greece. They also need Slovakia to not beat Malta at home. As it would then possibly come down to goal difference they would have to stick a few past us.

For Slovakia, they obviously need us to not win.

Senario 1. They would also need Greece to fail to beat Gibraltar at home.

Senario 2. A Croatia v Ukraine draw and a 3-0 win for Slovakia would do.

Senario 3. A Wales v Ireland draw and a 4-0 win.

So while Slovenia are as good as out, Slovakia have a couple of realistic scenarios that could see them get through.

I think it's easier for Slovakia than that. Remember the goals against the bottom team don't count so Croatia and Wales' goal difference would come down by quite a bit. So they would only need any win v Malta.

Also if Georgia win in Serbia they could go through too.

[Willie Miller's tache]

Greece v Gib score is irrelevant. Results v bottom teams are deducted when determining best second placed teams

[Toepoke]

3 minutes ago, Willie Miller's tache said:

Greece v Gib score is irrelevant. Results v bottom teams are deducted when determining best second placed teams

Aye that's not the full story: if Greece don't beat Gibraltar, and Bosnia beat Estonia to overtake them into 2nd place in their group, then Slovakia or Slovenia could still qualify.