Mazziessc Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, kumnio said: I’ve never understood how people could say something like this is well planned. Buy a lot of guns, but a lot of bullets, get a vantage point, shoot into a big crowd of people. I don’t think takes a lot of planning. Of course it does, even in Nevada you have to wait 24 hours before being issued with the gun after the purchase, which you are limited to in quantity of, sometimes only one at a time depending on the weapon. To get 20 Guns with 24 hours notice after each purchase would take three weeks of planning, never mind the time spent getting ammo and any possible back ground check irrespective of how relaxed their gun laws are. The whole system is corrupt and will likely never change, as long as there is money to be made from the people in control life's will continue to not matter. Sadly the folk who died yesterday are only a statistic and will be regarded as such as soon as the next shooting comes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sorry, don’t agree. He could be a gun nut who has bought a gun every couple of years, and now has a big collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Don’t think we’ll ever know the level of planning that went or didn’t go into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Mazziessc said: Of course it does, even in Nevada you have to wait 24 hours before being issued with the gun after the purchase, which you are limited to in quantity of, sometimes only one at a time depending on the weapon. To get 20 Guns with 24 hours notice after each purchase would take three weeks of planning, never mind the time spent getting ammo and any possible back ground check irrespective of how relaxed their gun laws are. The whole system is corrupt and will likely never change, as long as there is money to be made from the people in control life's will continue to not matter. Sadly the folk who died yesterday are only a statistic and will be regarded as such as soon as the next shooting comes along. Wow, a whole three weeks of planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, kumnio said: Sorry, don’t agree. He could be a gun nut who has bought a gun every couple of years, and now has a big collection. I heard on the radio that there was over 40 guns found between his hotel room and his house, it wasn't quoted directly, but if true, how much protection does one person need exactly. Easy solution, arm all Americans to the teeth and have a "purge" every year. Let the maniacs take each other out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 48 minutes ago, biffer said: Wow, a whole three weeks of planning. Your missing the point, it was thought out over a period of time, he didn't just get out of the wrong side of the bed and decide to go shoot 500 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 So automatics are banned but you can simulate them with one of these... insane. Much easier than I even imagined - comes fitted from the factory like that! Makes a mockery of the auto ban. This guy sure it explains the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mazziessc said: Your missing the point, it was thought out over a period of time, he didn't just get out of the wrong side of the bed and decide to go shoot 500 people. Exactly, highly premeditated IMHO. Not done in a rage, more like ice cold I would say. Well thought out as to maximize the damage. Probably reconnoitered well in advance as well. Really curious to see what this guy's beef is all about as this is something else... different level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 11 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Multi-millionaire nut job, well known in the hotels & online gambling community of Vegas Las Vegas police say there was a high degree of premeditation. In his latest briefing Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said: "I'm pretty sure he evaluated everything he did in his actions." Mr Lombardo also revealed that Paddock had set up cameras inside and outside his hotel suite, including one on a service cart, to monitor the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 16 hours ago, thplinth said: So automatics are banned but you can simulate them with one of these... insane. Much easier than I even imagined - comes fitted from the factory like that! Makes a mockery of the auto ban. This guy sure it explains the sound. I see it wrong to be attracted to that gun loving woman in the first video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I wonder how long it'll be until Scotty appears with some theory on what happened and how it's all an inside job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Parklife said: I wonder how long it'll be until Scotty appears with some theory on what happened and how it's all an inside job. On Monday while it was all unfolding, I was googling for more information and came across a TAMB for US gun nuts. It really was quite something to behold. Started off with "must be an Islamic terrorist". Then when they announce the name of the girlfriend - and it was fairly obvious it was a Filipino, someone found a Facebook profile of someone with the same name, it was all about how "there's plenty of Muslims in the Phillipines" which is true but it's also probably the most Catholic nation in the world and so there are many many more devout Christians there. Then all hell broke loose when they linked to her partner - presumably the shooter - and turned out he'd been to Dubai on holiday. Then he'd apparantly "liked" some "damn liberal" stuff, so that was set, the shooter was antifa and/or a Muslim sympathiser. Major problem was it turned out to be a completely different Marilou Danley - albeit a Filipina - but from a different state completely. Then when the identity of the shooter was revealed and it became apparent that he was in fact "one of their own", a White American gun nut, all the conspiracy theories started. A first class example of group cognitive dissonance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm off to Vegas for a long weekend tomorrow. Will be interesting to see what the atmosphere is like and how it's "bounced back" in such a short space of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The level of planning is chilling. Apparently had cameras set up in room, hall and door so he could see when police/security were approaching. Insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) It’s the sort of thing that could only happen in America. Hard to ever really know what the guys motive was, hard to argue some sort of mental illness, undipgnosed. Evidence of a sick society, no other country’s leader would be allowed to address the UN and threaten genocide on another country without anyone batting an eyelid. Edited October 4, 2017 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, Auld_Reekie said: The level of planning is chilling. Not really considering the guy was a multi millionaire IMO He could have done it all in jig time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 hours ago, aaid said: On Monday while it was all unfolding, I was googling for more information and came across a TAMB for US gun nuts. It really was quite something to behold. Started off with "must be an Islamic terrorist". Then when they announce the name of the girlfriend - and it was fairly obvious it was a Filipino, someone found a Facebook profile of someone with the same name, it was all about how "there's plenty of Muslims in the Phillipines" which is true but it's also probably the most Catholic nation in the world and so there are many many more devout Christians there. Then all hell broke loose when they linked to her partner - presumably the shooter - and turned out he'd been to Dubai on holiday. Then he'd apparantly "liked" some "damn liberal" stuff, so that was set, the shooter was antifa and/or a Muslim sympathiser. Major problem was it turned out to be a completely different Marilou Danley - albeit a Filipina - but from a different state completely. Then when the identity of the shooter was revealed and it became apparent that he was in fact "one of their own", a White American gun nut, all the conspiracy theories started. A first class example of group cognitive dissonance. I suspect that's why Scotty hasn't posted on it. probably waiting until the best conspiracy theory has been cooked up, he'll then come on here with all sorts of "evidence" and refuse to acknowledge anything that contradicts his manufactured viewpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Scotty hasn't posted on this thread yet and there's still some going on about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I’m not aware of any conspiracy theories (yet) but with these incidents all the information is being provided and controlled by organisations that I normally wouldn’t trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Fairbairn said: I'm off to Vegas for a long weekend tomorrow. Will be interesting to see what the atmosphere is like and how it's "bounced back" in such a short space of time. Tbf, Vegas is a hellhole filled to the brim with weirdos and crackpots from all over the world, you wont notice a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 From the leaked pictures, it looks like he had a fair cache of weaponry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasMc1973 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 who had 58? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Parklife said: I suspect that's why Scotty hasn't posted on it. probably waiting until the best conspiracy theory has been cooked up, he'll then come on here with all sorts of "evidence" and refuse to acknowledge anything that contradicts his manufactured viewpoint. I thought something along those lines... 3 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Scotty hasn't posted on this thread yet and there's still some going on about him ...but then again, that's a fair point. Ball and not the man and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Trump/ the gun control lobby argues that you need good people with guns to protect against bad people with guns. Has there ever been any incidents when a good guy with a gun has actually taken out a bad guy with a gun to prevent mored killings? Seems a rubbish argument compared to don't let anyone have a gun though I supect that once that genie has escaped the bottle its pretty difficult to put it back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 46 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Trump/ the gun control lobby argues that you need good people with guns to protect against bad people with guns. Has there ever been any incidents when a good guy with a gun has actually taken out a bad guy with a gun to prevent mored killings? Seems a rubbish argument compared to don't let anyone have a gun though I supect that once that genie has escaped the bottle its pretty difficult to put it back in. No. None. If you search the internet you will find zero examples of guns saving people from criminals. Not one. Amazing how all these stupid people have never worked it out like you. Every major politician asking for gun control is protected by people with guns. Obviously that is just to throw you off the scent. Guns are useless against other people with guns. Everyone knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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