Mox Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, theweestevie said: There was a potential title winner in 2012 when Celtic came to Ibrox so no reason they couldn't do it this year as well. I think the biggest complication this time around is that the rest of the top 6 have played at Ibrox twice already so 2 teams will need to go to Ibrox 3 times if they want to keep the same number of home/away games the same as far as possible. As much as the idea of the split is to get meanginful games at the end of the season with teams ending the season playing the teams around them, I think a team that is fighting for survival playing a team fighting for the title or European spot would be an exciting prospect to watch. Spot on, could not agree more. The split creates a kind of manufactured and contrived excitement by focusing on this myth that if teams fighting for the same thing play each other, this is somehow more exciting or intriguing than the bottom side playing Aberdeen, Hibs, Rangers or Celtic on the last day, it's horseshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Amazing that the split has lasted nearly 2 decades. It seems the only options available are to persevere with it or go back to a 10 team league, so it's the lesser of 2 evils as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Time to get rid of the split IMO The top six bottom six split doesn't add enough to the game to justify the mockery the SPFL make of announcing the post split fixtures. All of this is to make sure two teams don;t play each other on certain dates. MAnchester derby with potential title winner - ok Glasgow derby with potential title winner - not ok because they don't trust the fans to behave themselves. If they did misbehave, here's a revolutionary idea - punish them!! Yup but what it also does is make things easier for Rangers. They are not allowed to play Celtic until Celtic have won the league. Meaning someone else will have to play Celtic in a game they'll be desperate to win to clinch the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I quite like the split In a close P league title race, ( ok not had one for a while) the top two have to play the top six to win the title, the other method could result in one team with an easier run in.... This year whoever gets second will have earned it, as all the teams from 2-6th play each other in the run with no easy games against bottom teams.. No team plays a relegated team, no team plays a team with nowt to play for ( unless u count Hearts) , the race for second this year will be good... Every year folk moan about it, i think its good. Imagine how the EpL would be marketed if the last 6 games of the season were played between their top six to see who wins the title.. Aye, its nonsense that Celtic cannae win the title at Ibrox, but lets be honest, thats Scotlands fault , not footballs. I can also see the flaws in a team having 1 more home game than others, but like Mr Poke says its that or back to a ten team league at the moment. I can live with that. a 16 /18 top team league for me is the answer... Sit back and wait for flak...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 The last time this came up was pre split ( last game before) if memory serves me right. There was no bother that day. I couldn't give two fucks myself if we have to. In fact, I'd gladly play them the 1st game and play all 5 games away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Time to get rid of the split IMO The top six bottom six split doesn't add enough to the game to justify the mockery the SPFL make of announcing the post split fixtures. All of this is to make sure two teams don;t play each other on certain dates. MAnchester derby with potential title winner - ok Glasgow derby with potential title winner - not ok because they don't trust the fans to behave themselves. If they did misbehave, here's a revolutionary idea - punish them!! And the whole while they tells us how much the game needs the Ranjurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, Debian said: In fact, I'd gladly play them the 1st game and play all 5 games away from home. No wonder, you seen your home form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stocky said: a 16 /18 top team league for me is the answer... Sit back and wait for flak...... It is the answer but the clubs themselves are to blame for this mess. They are the ones who voted to introduce and retain the split as they want Rangers and Celtic to play them at home with the possibility of 4 games against them instead of only 2 The TV deal would be next to hee-haw as they Scottish football stops and starts with Celtic and Rangers in the eyes of the broadcasters, it’s all manufactured to suit the two big Glasgow clubs. When was the last time Celtic or Rangers played away from home on a Saturday at 3oclock? It’s so they can televise one of them as each broadcaster can only show live coverage from the same ground 4/5 times a season I believe Or how often do they televise live games from Ibrox and Parkhead unless it’s a derby. All to ensure their home attendances aren’t effected The other ten clubs are complicit in this whole debacle as they agreed to this Edited April 9, 2018 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) A 16 team league means a 30 game season instead of 38, so losing 4 home gates as well as old firm visits. I don’t think the split itself is that bad, all the fannying about and inconsistencies around pleasing 2 of the 12 clubs makes a bit of a mockery of it though. Edited April 9, 2018 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: No wonder, you seen your home form? Dropped 12 points from 16 away games and 22 points from 17 home games I think it is, or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweestevie Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: It is the answer but the clubs themselves are to blame for this mess. They are the ones who voted to introduce and retain the split as they want Rangers and Celtic to play them at home with the possibility of 4 games against them instead of only 2 The TV deal would be next to hee-haw as they Scottish football stops and starts with Celtic and Rangers in the eyes of the broadcasters, it’s all manufactured to suit the two big Glasgow clubs. When was the last time Celtic or Rangers played away from home on a Saturday at 3oclock? It’s so they can televise one of them as each broadcaster can only show live coverage from the same ground 4/5 times a season I believe Or how often do they televise live games from Ibrox and Parkhead unless it’s a derby. All to ensure their home attendances aren’t effected The other ten clubs are complicit in this whole debacle as they agreed to this I don't think it is anything to do with home attendences and more of the broadcaster(s) trying to maximise their audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I am excited about every game post split so for me it's working. Will be a cracking run in for Europe and relegation. Dont care about the old firm or the fixture list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, theweestevie said: I don't think it is anything to do with home attendences and more of the broadcaster(s) trying to maximise their audience. It's bugger all to do with attendances as the season tickets are already sold so would have a minimal impact. They want the away games to maximise their TV audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 The sooner we go to 20 team leagues the better. I'm sure I saw a stat recently that Scott Brown has played Motherwell 44 times, or something like that. It's boring. I'm not sure there is a huge difference in quality between the bottom 6 and Championship. The gap would be even less within a year or two of a bigger league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHFC Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Celtic are apparently at home to Aberdeen last game of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: The sooner we go to 20 team leagues the better. I'm sure I saw a stat recently that Scott Brown has played Motherwell 44 times, or something like that. It's boring. I'm not sure there is a huge difference in quality between the bottom 6 and Championship. The gap would be even less within a year or two of a bigger league. 20 team league is far far too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: 20 team league is far far too big. I’d have to agree, Scotland is not a big enough country to support that number, there’s only 22 full time teams at the moment. 12 x premiership 8 x championship 2 x league 1 to best of my knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 As mental as the 8-8-8 concept was it did have some selling points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SteveHFC said: Celtic are apparently at home to Aberdeen last game of the season. I'd read it's Celtic v Killie on the last day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: I'd read it's Celtic v Killie on the last day I've seen both. i think we'll have hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 13 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: It's bugger all to do with attendances as the season tickets are already sold so would have a minimal impact. They want the away games to maximise their TV audience. And they're only allowed to show a certain amount of home games for each club in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 18 hours ago, sbcmfc said: No wonder, you seen your home form? Haha. It's been ridiculous, but, it seems that there's this belief that Rangers get it easy. Despite missing 4 seasons in the top tier, they're still the team who've played away 3 times most. Teams can't have it both ways. I get the split is flawed, but it won't be changed. It's not Rangers fault the fixtures came out as they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Looks like we'll be playing the Huns on Sunday 29th which is pathetic, a league run by a bunch of bed wetters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mox said: Looks like we'll be playing the Huns on Sunday 29th which is pathetic, a league run by a bunch of bed wetters. Could still be a title decider though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Mox said: Looks like we'll be playing the Huns on Sunday 29th which is pathetic, a league run by a bunch of bed wetters. You'd probably bottle it again anyway like 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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