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36 minutes ago, dandydunn said:

It’s called momentum, do you honestly expect him to win the ball and just stop his leg in mid air?

He wasn’t lucky that it didn’t cost them the points, we were pathetic again, the sooner that people realise this and stop trying to paper up cracks, the better. 

We had a guy with a left foot on the right and a guy with a right foot on the left, both cutting in everytime tool any penetration out of attacking play. 

Mcinnes is to blame for these performances, no one else, we've shat it by the way we’ve played, again. 

It’s simply not good enough. 

Totally agree with you on the performance and where the blame lies.  Also don't think the sending off changed the game, in fact, we became even more clueless after it.

However, with respect to the red card, momentum doesn't take you through the other player half way up their shin with your studs showing. And if it does, it's reckless and excessive. This was a deliberate and unsurprisingly cowardly attempt to hurt the other player.  Definite red card. 

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Just now, SMcoolJ said:

Totally agree with you on the performance and where the blame lies.  Also don't think the sending off changed the game, in fact, we became even more clueless after it.. 

Of course it changed the game. We were comfortable and on top before it. Last 20 mins we had to sit back and sheep shaggers were on top. Blatant. 

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5 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said:

Totally agree with you on the performance and where the blame lies.  Also don't think the sending off changed the game, in fact, we became even more clueless after it.

However, with respect to the red card, momentum doesn't take you through the other player half way up their shin with your studs showing. And if it does, it's reckless and excessive. This was a deliberate and unsurprisingly cowardly attempt to hurt the other player.  Definite red card. 

He swung his leg towards the ball with his insole, he is clearly going to go further with his foot after winning it. 

It’s a mans game, if May got stuck in too, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. 

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31 minutes ago, dandydunn said:

He was at least 2 yards closer to the ball than May was, should he just not want to win the ball? What would be your opinion of an aberdeen player that didn’t make a challenge that was minimum 60/40 in his favour?

I know what mine would be. 

It's a bit of a strange one for me.  It turns out to be a bad tackle as he catches him high and could have badly injured May.  I don't think there was intent to injure but that's not been relevant to the law for years.   

All that said, if May doesn't pull out of the tackle then it's probably not even a foul so I think Jack was pretty unlucky to be sent off but it was a clear red to me - if that makes any sense.

A very clear example of what I was taught as a kid, that if you hold back in a tackle, you are more likely to get injured.

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20 minutes ago, dandydunn said:

He swung his leg towards the ball with his insole, he is clearly going to go further with his foot after winning it. 

It’s a mans game, if May got stuck in too, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. 

Like I say, momentum doesn't take you half way up the other players shin. I can't post photos but there's a couple doing the rounds that might change your mind even if I can't. 

Frankly, it's a moot point for me and I'm as fecked off as you with regards to the way both games have been handled on and off the pitch. 

We've been sh1t all season and a couple of lucky, odd goal wins against the "smaller" teams certainly hasn't masked it. 

The speculation should have been put to rest much earlier with a definitive statement. Furthermore, we're in Dec and still have no idea what our starting 11 should be. That needs sorted now  to allow some consistency and flow. 

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I think you can make a case for Jack, he wins the ball and it doesn’t look particularly nasty from the video posted on here. I think a yellow would’ve been sufficient.

Motherwell appealed a very similar one last season and got rejected (Carl McHugh v Hearts), not to say Jacks won’t be overturned as it’s an absolute lottery. (Possibly a postcode lottery?)

No team in the Premiership have more red cards than Ryan jack this season! That’s quite a stat!

:lol:

Perhaps his reputation preceded him?

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10 hours ago, slasher said:

Where are the photos of all these  broken seats and vandalised toilets?

 

6 hours ago, slasher said:

Any other time it's happened the 'evidence' has appeared very quickly 😏

The time it happened before the pictures were posted on social media by individuals, not the club. They said they normally deal with these things privately between the clubs, so I wouldn’t expect them to then post pictures.

5 hours ago, Scotland Ever More said:

True. Could this be another thing that's just been "flung in" I wonder?

You’re probably at it, but I can’t see MFC having to make things up if we’re looking to make Celtics fans look bad.

I think the point was, those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones (or broken seats or chewits).

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Big couple of games for the Hibees next week.  Celtic on the Sunday, Rangers on the Wednesday.  Away form has been brilliant, home form, poor.  Time for a couple of big performances.  

Looks like both games going to be complete sell outs as well, which is great, especially for the Celtic game at 12.30 on a Sunday.  Will take our average attendance season to date up and over 18k. 

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First thoughts were red, but after seeing the replay a few times, it is definitely not a red.  May shat the the tackle, and Jack would not be able to stop the momentum.  Rescinded all day long, and more questions to be asked of the referee's of Scotland.

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1 hour ago, sbcmfc said:

 

The time it happened before the pictures were posted on social media by individuals, not the club. They said they normally deal with these things privately between the clubs, so I wouldn’t expect them to then post pictures.

You’re probably at it, but I can’t see MFC having to make things up if we’re looking to make Celtics fans look bad.

I think the point was, those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones (or broken seats or chewits).

:ok:

I'm not at anything, I think Slasher asked a fair enough question. You'd usually expect to see some evidence of broken seats etc if that accusation is being made.

I have no idea if they were or not as I wasn't at the game.

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12 minutes ago, Debian said:

First thoughts were red, but after seeing the replay a few times, it is definitely not a red.  May shat the the tackle, and Jack would not be able to stop the momentum.  Rescinded all day long, and more questions to be asked of the referee's of Scotland.

You can't even write English properly - and that's before we begin to analyse your ludicrous hypothesis that it wasn't a red card.

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1 minute ago, Barney Rubble said:

You can't even write English properly - and that's before we begin to analyse your ludicrous hypothesis that it wasn't a red card.

I don’t think it’s ludicrous to say it wasn’t a red. It was on the harsh side. I’d say it’s unlikely to get rescinded, but that would be assuming any consistency from the SFA...

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10 minutes ago, Scotland Ever More said:

I'm not at anything, I think Slasher asked a fair enough question. You'd usually expect to see some evidence of broken seats etc if that accusation is being made.

I have no idea if they were or not as I wasn't at the game.

I thought he was taking the piss out of the whole “YouTube or it didn’t happen” thing from Boxing Day at Dens a couple of years back.

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That wasn't a harsh red - it was as stick-on a red as you are ever going to see.

Yes there may have been no intent with his challenge - but Jack got it wrong and his challenge was so far dangerous that it isn't even questionable.

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1 minute ago, Barney Rubble said:

That wasn't a harsh red - it was as stick-on a red a you are ever going to see.

Yes there may have been no intent with his challenge - but yes he got it wrong and it was so far dangerous that it isn't even questionable.

I’ve only seen one angle, but didn’t see it that way.

It shouldn’t be rescinded based on previous precedents and ultimately because of how bad it ended up looking because of where he caught him probably won’t be.

As others have said of May hadn’t gone in so halfarsed it wouldn’t have even been a foul.

I don’t think there would’ve been a massive outcry if that was a yellow at the time.

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6 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said:

Jack's 4th red card for Rangers and it will be the 3rd one that'll be rescinded. 

Collum has made the decision based on May going down. 

If May actually commits to the tackle he'd have been fine but because he's a shitebag he got what he deserved. 

Embarrassing decision for the ref yet again. 

No chance it'll be rescinded was a shocking tackle

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How can people expect Aberdeen players to play for the national team when they can't beat their nearest challengers? They were poor.

Why would Rangers go for a manager who cannot beat Celtic and struggles to beat a club in crisis.

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10 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:

That wasn't a harsh red - it was as stick-on a red as you are ever going to see.

Yes there may have been no intent with his challenge - but Jack got it wrong and his challenge was so far dangerous that it isn't even questionable.

Indeed. 

10 hours ago, sbcmfc said:

As others have said of May hadn’t gone in so halfarsed it wouldn’t have even been a foul.

"Others" are thick fvcks like Bill Leckie. If that's the calibre of the folk you have backing your argument then i'd reconsider your position :lol: 

May pulled out of the tackles as he decided he wouldn't win the ball. It was as blatant a foul and red card as you'll ever see. 

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2 hours ago, EddardStark said:

The red won't be rescinded but there was no intent.  It was a bad one for May though and I hope he has not suffered  long term injury. 

Intent has nothing to do with it. It's about recklessly endangering an opponent.

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