Caledonian Craig Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ormond said: When did Bardsley win the fans over? Seems enough of them on here calling for a recall for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Caledonian Craig said: Seems enough of them on here calling for a recall for him. There are the usual guys who would call up anyone who is playing in England. Point is I wouldn’t say he won over any great chunk of fans whilst in a Scotland jersey unlike Alexander who did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ormond said: There are the usual guys who would call up anyone who is playing in England. Point is I wouldn’t say he won over any great chunk of fans whilst in a Scotland jersey unlike Alexander who did Fair enough but there are lots like that and we all know it. Which brings us back to the pertinent point of not pre-judging players before they have actually played for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Beardsley was championed because we didn’t have a functioning right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Seems enough of them on here calling for a recall for him. no! callum paterson should be our right back, even tierney playing there for me would be better than bardsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, jamboman said: no! callum paterson should be our right back, even tierney playing there for me would be better than bardsley. The point is that many players selected for Scotland who fans think aren't good enough win the fans over with their performances. And on the other side of the coin players that fans want in and crow about turn out to be unmitigated flops or disasters for us. Edited January 17, 2018 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Jesus Grant Hanley is bad. Norwich 1-0 down after he ‘defends’ like he does for Scotland. Souttar, McCrorie, Hendry, Lindsay & maybe McKenna should all be in the next squad ahead of him. Edited January 17, 2018 by ProudScot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Jesus Grant Hanley is bad. Norwich 1-0 down after he ‘defends’ like he does for Scotland. Souttar, McCrorie, Hendry, Lindsay & maybe McKenna should all be in the next squad ahead of him. Hanley is murder. I wouldn’t have him anywhere near our setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ormond said: Hanley is murder. I wouldn’t have him anywhere near our setup. Agreed. Id be happy with those younger lads listed above and Berra making up our centre backs going forward. Stuart Findlay at Newcastle/Killie could be decent yet too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ProudScot said: Agreed. Id be happy with those younger lads listed above and Berra making up our centre backs going forward. Stuart Findlay at Newcastle/Killie could be decent yet too? Hanley has had more chances than anyone to show even a glimpse of turning into a decent player. He’s failed. He’s a lower level player. Not his fault but a small nation like ours needs to build some steadiness from the back forward and it won’t happen with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 you could of course argue that he was part of a Norwich defence which let in one goal over 210 minutes against Chelsea. Maybe not the full Chelsea team but hey ho see what you want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: you could of course argue that he was part of a Norwich defence which let in one goal over 210 minutes against Chelsea. Maybe not the full Chelsea team but hey ho see what you want to see. Did you watch the game!? It was textbook Hanley. Defends acceptably enough and then a laughable mistake in his own box and 1-0 down. Hes what, 27 this year... hardly a young player we hope will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 We better prepare ourself for it but it’s a safe bet that whoever our new manager is will select Hanley due to the fact he’s a regular in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 For me, centre forward is even more of a problem area than defence. Outwith Griffiths there aren't many candidates at all to fill the position, not at the moment anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, scotlad said: For me, centre forward is even more of a problem area than defence. Outwith Griffiths there aren't many candidates at all to fill the position, not at the moment anyway. Agreed, I think McBurnie’s recent action for Swansea and impending loan move might see him promoted to the top squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, scotlad said: For me, centre forward is even more of a problem area than defence. Outwith Griffiths there aren't many candidates at all to fill the position, not at the moment anyway. I guess Cummings has got his first Scotland cap in the last game, but his career has stalled at Forest. I think there is a big few months ahead of him now at Rangers to prove that he can play at a higher level. If Stevie May is to live up to his expectations, then he needs to do it now. With Hibs specs on, I like the look of Ollie Shaw. Maybe a bit early for him, but one for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, scotlad said: For me, centre forward is even more of a problem area than defence. Outwith Griffiths there aren't many candidates at all to fill the position, not at the moment anyway. Absolutely. Two years down the line I see centre half being very good indeed. Striker is the biggest problem. McBurnie, Callum Smith, Zak Rudden and Aitchison look promising from the youth sides. Cummings has a touch of the Mo Johnston's about him but his career could go either way at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Centre back still the biggest problem for me. We didn't really have a problem scoring goals in the last 2 campaigns. We would have made the play offs and possibly even qualified directly for 2016 if we had 2 quality centre backs. The latter half of the euro 2016 goals conceded were particularly soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, scotlad said: For me, centre forward is even more of a problem area than defence. Outwith Griffiths there aren't many candidates at all to fill the position, not at the moment anyway. If Naismith starts banging them in for Hearts he could be an option as he’s only 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Striker is only a problem if Griffith's gets injured. He is only 27 so we have him for next 5 or so years at least. We could do with a young striker to replace him eventually or as back up. Having watched mcburnie I don't think he will be good enough and will eventually end up in the English championship. Cummings isn't international level either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, JECK said: Centre back still the biggest problem for me. We didn't really have a problem scoring goals in the last 2 campaigns. We would have made the play offs and possibly even qualified directly for 2016 if we had 2 quality centre backs. The latter half of the euro 2016 goals conceded were particularly soft. It’s only the biggest problem if we pick players like Hanley. We have promising centre backs at a good age who we can promote to the senior side now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 hours ago, ProudScot said: Did you watch the game!? It was textbook Hanley. Defends acceptably enough and then a laughable mistake in his own box and 1-0 down. Hes what, 27 this year... hardly a young player we hope will get better. Of course you could say he has just turned 26 and has been man of the match in two out of his last three championship games (whoscored.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Ormond said: If Naismith starts banging them in for Hearts he could be an option as he’s only 31. I Take it he has been injured all season as he has hardly played minute for Norwich. But you aren't serious are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: It’s only the biggest problem if we pick players like Hanley. We have promising centre backs at a good age who we can promote to the senior side now. Aye "promising" and untried as yet and could be at Hanleys level or worse for all we know. Hence it's still the biggest problem. I'd agree though it's time to bring some new younger ones in and I'd imagine some will get a chance this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Of course you could say he has just turned 26 and has been man of the match in two out of his last three championship games (whoscored.com) You didn’t watch the game did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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