ErsatzThistle Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Heard her foghorn voice turned up to 11 arguing (deflecting) over this with Gary Robertson this morning. It was all the SNP's fault, despite the fact it was the Herald that flagged up the story... And The Herald of course is certainly not a pro-SNP newspaper by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: The SNP holds the most seats in Holyrood, the most amount of Scottish council seats, the majority of Scottish seats at Westminster and got the most votes for any Scottish party at Westminster. Now I'm no John Curtice but that does suggest to me that more than a few people agree with them and vote accordingly. And again, you fail to take into account that strong Unionist tactical voting, the putting up of "paper candidates" by Unionist parties and voters staying at home were major factors for the reversals in June just by, the Brexit fallout was limited to only a few seats in the North East. If the SNP had the likes of you and like-minded geniuses such as that empty headed buffoon Jim Fairlie (whose twitter is full of Tories telling him what a great guy he is) and sad, bitter old Jim Sillars (a legend in his own mind) still running things, the party would be what it was in the dark days of the 1980s, a laughing stock and a total irrelevance. It would probably be for the best if you did vote for another party seeing as how you don't seem to agree with many of the SNP's policies. That's me trying to be constructive here and pointing out the facts for you. That avoid talking about Brexit policy really is one monumentally stupid idea and then some. What about those nasty Europeans eh ? Oppressing our poor fishermen I agree with most SNP policies,, which ones have i stated that i dont? Probably the buisness rate carry on and brexit(although i am more aligned with the SNP's stance than TM's) yes i agree there was a strong unionist tactical vote, but how much votes did the snp lose? How do you explain that?,, sometimes on social media or forums a perception of someone is built up which is completely different to the actual person, that seems to be the case with your judgement on myself. Going by my grammar and spelling on here you would not think it but i am a very good talker and debater with a very good nack of getting my point of view across,the snp need young folk like myself in the party who can convince or explain to others the benifits of the snp or an independent Scotland, why would you go out of your way to discourage me from voting snp, i dont get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Toepoke said: Heard her foghorn voice turned up to 11 arguing (deflecting) over this with Gary Robertson this morning. It was all the SNP's fault, despite the fact it was the Herald that flagged up the story... I read today that her Husband ( Now passed away) was the guy who controlled and moderated the comments page in the Herald amongst other things. A Harridan of a wifie , not fit to be Elected IMO.... However Anybody but the SNP....... Edited August 18, 2017 by stocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 0:18 PM, ErsatzThistle said: The SNP holds the most seats in Holyrood, the most amount of Scottish council seats, the majority of Scottish seats at Westminster and got the most votes for any Scottish party at Westminster. Now I'm no John Curtice but that does suggest to me that more than a few people agree with them and vote accordingly. And again, you fail to take into account that strong Unionist tactical voting, the putting up of "paper candidates" by Unionist parties and voters staying at home were major factors for the reversals in June just by, the Brexit fallout was limited to only a few seats in the North East. If the SNP had the likes of you and like-minded geniuses such as that empty headed buffoon Jim Fairlie (whose twitter is full of Tories telling him what a great guy he is) and sad, bitter old Jim Sillars (a legend in his own mind) still running things, the party would be what it was in the dark days of the 1980s, a laughing stock and a total irrelevance. It would probably be for the best if you did vote for another party seeing as how you don't seem to agree with many of the SNP's policies. That's me trying to be constructive here and pointing out the facts for you. That avoid talking about Brexit policy really is one monumentally stupid idea and then some. What about those nasty Europeans eh ? Oppressing our poor fishermen I think you are being unfairly harsh on Hampdenloon. He lives in an area where one particular industry employs most folk living in his area, its not surprising he sees things differently to folk living in , for example, the central belt. This doesn't mean he is wrong. I dont agree with him on his SNP EU position but I can understand why he feels the way he does. And I admire his continued strong support for the SNP given the political situation up there. He just doesnt allow himself to be blinkered and think everything in the garden is rosy. I think you make a lot of good points, you too are passionate about your party. However I would prefer that members can raise concerns about what is happening in their area without being shot down in flames. Afterall we are all focusing on the same goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41660040 the people of Moray must be so glad they voted for this chump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 hours ago, vanderark14 said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41660040 the people of Moray must be so glad they voted for this chump If you live in a Scottish constituency and elect a Unionist MP you can expect absolutely fvck all in return Sure - they might take on a couple of personal cases but in the main shit all will be done. Look at the state of Hamilton which has been turned into a ghost town after years of control by Labour (MP and South Lanarkshire Labour council) Now that Labour have been fvcked out of controlling the council the plans of the SNP MP and MSP can get off the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 hours ago, vanderark14 said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41660040 the people of Moray must be so glad they voted for this chump He'd done it before as an MSP too, so they knew what they were voting for and can have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Parklife said: He'd done it before as an MSP too, so they knew what they were voting for and can have no complaints. Except that during the election campaign he promised to give priority to his MP job if he got elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Had nobody on here ever skived to go to an away game or such? Fair play to the boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 18/10/2017 at 3:00 PM, Orraloon said: Except that during the election campaign he promised to give priority to his MP job if he got elected. He's a Tory who made a promise during an election campaign, so they knew what they were voting for and can have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, DaveyDenoon said: He's a politician who made a promise during an election campaign, so they knew what they were voting for and can have no complaints. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I've been away for a few days and heard May again today on the radio and had forgotten just how terrible an actor she is. The ebb and flow of her voice/PR training sounds so odd and overly-fake. I missed the Tory conference ; but just seen her speech with the font behind her falling off and her spluttering up, she's like the English Hilary Clinton - a walking disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ParisInAKilt Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: There’s hypocrisy on all sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: There’s hypocrisy on all sides Still waiting on you letting us into your insight of the SNP hypocrisy instead of throwaway lines .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 32 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Still waiting on you letting us into your insight of the SNP hypocrisy instead of throwaway lines .... I’ve did that more than once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: I’ve did that more than once Lets have a refresher all on the one post and thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Ally Bongo said: Lets have a refresher all on the one post and thread You’re more than capable of using the search function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: You’re more than capable of using the search function. Without looking i can guarantee there are numerous one liners and throwaway jibes with fvck all substance No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Without looking i can guarantee there are numerous one liners and throwaway jibes with fvck all substance No thanks 10 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Lets have a refresher all on the one post and thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 11 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: There’s hypocrisy on all sides Don't get me wrong Paris, i enjoy reading your posts and respect where you're coming from. But it must be hard being a left-leaning progressive and knowing you voted for Brexit which has enabled the biggest lurch to the right that Britain has seen since, well, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dave78 said: Don't get me wrong Paris, i enjoy reading your posts and respect where you're coming from. But it must be hard being a left-leaning progressive and knowing you voted for Brexit which has enabled the biggest lurch to the right that Britain has seen since, well, ever. I'm no the most political savvy person in the world but surely all this labelling everything left wing or right wing is part of the problem? Can people not have different views from each other without being labelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: I'm no the most political savvy person in the world but surely all this labelling everything left wing or right wing is part of the problem? Can people not have different views from each other without being labelled? Interesting question. Labeling can be lazy, i agree. They tend to work though, on the whole. Maybe we just need better definitions of the groups people fall into (i.e. more labels! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Dave78 said: Interesting question. Labeling can be lazy, i agree. They tend to work though, on the whole. Maybe we just need better definitions of the groups people fall into (i.e. more labels! ) I'd personally refer to them as the crowd that believe those lying cüntz and that other crowd that believe those other lying cüntz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: I'd personally refer to them as the crowd that believe those lying cüntz and that other crowd that believe those other lying cüntz They're all cúntz, but it's yer democratic duty to vote in the less evil cúnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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