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  1. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Labour are the key to any future independence referendum as somone stated above, the yes movement are totally relient on the snp and how well they are doing.If another referendum were to be called it would be hugely beneficial if the likes of henry mcliesh, kez dugdal and a few more were to form a propper “labor for yes” Henry mcleish from what i can gather is fully on board. One advantage we will have going forward is a pro-independence news paper.
  2. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    I dont think the snp are fucked however i think a portion of the yes movement have burried their heads in the sand to the actual mood of sections of previous yes voters. Had you said the snp would be in this position 10 years ago you would have snapped their had off to be the biggest party with a mandate for another referendum. The snp have possibly introduced to much policies to quickly, council tax change, income tax changes, alcohol minimum pricing ect, it has gave the oposition the chance to strerio type the party to a certain section of the electorate. Salmond would never have fell into that trap, Personally i loved alecs political position. He ran a brilliant party and would like tomthink he will have an influence going forward. Head up ally, it can become tiresome, i needed to take a step back for a while to recharge the batteries. We will need the likes of yourself once indy ref is called which i am certain will be 2020. Best case scenario is that westminster rejects this and we go into holyrood 2021with independence as the sole policy,keep the faith 👍 on a side note i would not take this by-election as an indicator of the general mood as it has always been a strong tory voting part of perthshire
  3. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Cracking post, the yes camp need to improve their technique while trying to persuade,, listening to concerns and fears is a way if forming respect and common ground which then gives a better opportunity to changes minds
  4. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    My exact words were “i have no issue with nicola sturgeon as long as she makes independence more likely which just now she is not.” So stip trying to soin my words, my problem is she is turning voters away
  5. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    I can guarantee he was not lying, very eccentric guy but scottish and indy through and through.
  6. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Alec would be my first choice however that is unlikely but he will stand next time round in holyrood. I have been thinking about this for a while and one that has gone under the radar but ticks a lot of boxes is kate Forbes, she is a bit inexperienced at the moment but i see her becoming a very good politician, she is on a good thing up there,
  7. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Yes i am a big alec salmond man, i have no issue with nicola sturgeon as long as she makes independence more likely which just now she is not. There was only one other northest lad in the tea shack whom was all for independence, there was one from govan, one from renfrew(the most vocal unionist) the english lad was from the borders, been here for 20 year, a thurso lad and buckie amoungst others, so it was a broad range of folk.I am not saying this is scientific but when i move around the north sea this is a reoccurring attitude. I will add that if push came to shove most previous yes voters whom are now on the fence most would come back round to independence,
  8. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    I agree with that, but its not me and you that need convinced, i have been trying to judge the mood of late in my work place freinds and family. What is coming across is that Sturgeon is not overly popular even within the independence ranks. Today in the tea shack at work i managed to sway the conversation to the snp/independence via a discussion with an english born lad who’s daughter is at uni, to cut a long story straight I basically called the whole tea shack out on their political persuasion. Bear in mind i am offshore in a mixture of guys from different parts of the country, 4 out of the 12 were no voters(one who's cousins with a partick thistle daft tamb member) 7 were yes and the english lad didnt vote however what came from one of the yes voters, who is snp and a die hard nationalist was that sturgeon was a “poisonous dwarf” and that was the general mood “i am snp but sturgeon annoys me”type of attitude. They all expressed they would vote yes but i dare say the would require persuading. With the blunt instrument of brexit and the poor handling by sturgeon, it has gave the media a chance to pick away at the sides of the snp and have managed to “peel back the cover” and get some shit to stick..and when i see an acquaintance whom used to be a nationalist sharing some brain dead anti snp caption about tax It really does make my heart sink.
  9. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Yes they should be taken with a pinch of salt however they are an indication of general moods, if there were a GE tomorrow the snp would be trounced, I genuinely believe that, a lot of casual snp voters are tired and the momentum is with the pro unionist parties, we need a bit of momentum, something needs to come out of brexit to get your average voters back up.
  10. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Yes revaluate the situation early 2019, the dust will have settled with the new taxation codes, brexit will become clearer and folk will get a respite from politics for a while. As i have previously said summer 2020 looks best to me, , but my gut feeling is we will not win an independence referendum led by Sturgeon, i seriously hope i am wrong
  11. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    If we dont have one in 2020 then we will have to wait at least until 2026 because there is no chance the snp will gain a pro independence majority at holyrood in 2021 to call for one. My personal opinion is go for it in the summer 2020 before the next holyrood elections. The polling completly mirrors the GE 2017,
  12. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Erm aye you have a point, to an extent the fishermen have to accept a huge portion of the blame, slipper skippers, selling quota which was handed out for free ect, however the inflexibility of the CFP was a played a massive part to the industry’s decline, its a very complex industry with different layers to diffrent sectors, pelagic, whitefish, prawners, creel boats, clammers all have different needs and have had different experiences of the CFP. The very vocal nasty tory skippers(primarily white fish) have managed to get the view out which has been projected bybthe MSM.They have been very effective in their brexit campaign and managing to turn snp brexit supporters into tory voters, very sad i know but i hate to admit, we have our fair share of tartan torys In general what i am trying to say is the industry had been run very poorly and the Cfp Has compounded their hardship, we need to try get the fishers back on side and not alienate them. The majority are natural nationalists
  13. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    “”Retweeted Keith Brown MSP (@KeithBrownSNP): Newsnight reporting that Scottish Tory MPs were not even told about the fishing sell-out, and have tonight been told it cannot be changed! Unbelievabl”” that alone tells its own story
  14. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    Harsh considering how shit they have been treated for 30 odd years
  15. hampden_loon2878

    Indy Ref 2

    The snp have always Campaigned to come out of the CFP which would be replaced with a more appropriate frame work for scotland, the reason the CFP was so heavily against the fishermen was due to eu rebates and opt outs, mostly benefiting the south, however that said, the snp will need to do some serious ground work to repair the damage
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