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      PLEASE READ: TAMB is not closing!   10/12/2017

      Just to provide an update on the future of the Tartan Army Message Board. To be clear the board will not be closing and instead will be staying open and will hopefully go from strength to strength. Who Are We? We are a group of Scotland supporters who have varied skills and expertise, along with experience of  being involved in football and running football message boards. When we heard the TAMB faced closure, we contacted the old team with a detailed plan which involved financing and running the board. After speaking to the old team on a number of occasions they have allowed us to put our plan into action. While speaking to them and going on their experience and that of those before them, we have elected to keep our identity private, however rest assured we have the best intentions for the board and those on it. Our Plans. Our plan will involve a number of stages which we hope will not only keep the board going but help improve and rejuvenate it. Our first step will be to do a bit of a clean-up of the board. This will involve some downtime for a few hours where posting will be disabled. We plan to do this early next week, a full notice will be posted on the board then. Once that is completed we will be upgrading the current board platform, both behind the scenes and hopefully aesthetically too. There will be an ongoing process of board improvements which we hope you, the user will help us with, so you have a board you will enjoy We thank the old board team for all their hard work, dedication and their help during this handover and hope you will all help support our plans going forward.

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  1. Are the tickets still available? Will take them right away, if possible. If not, I'm on the look out for 2 tickets. Thanks!
  2. I am in the same boat. Booked flights at the weekend from Germany to London to Edinburgh for the day of the game and returning to Germany day after. Now just need a ticket!!! Would be so grateful if anyone can help. Have a Scottish address that the ticket could be sent to and, of course, I'm more than willing to cover all postage costs, ticket costs etc. Any other suggestions how to get my hands on one would also be great. Thanks in advance for the help!
  3. Simple question - will it or won't it happen? Is the Westminster establishment so appalled at the idea of the Scots having a say in the running of the UK that they would go this far? Would Cameron, Miliband (and to a lesser extent, Clegg) be willing to do whatever it takes to stop a permanent transfer of power north of the border? 7 months ago, in the days prior to the referendum, did they not do whatever was necessary to stop a permanent transfer of power north of the border? Has a precedent not already been set. The lies, the threats and the vow all put together had a particular feel about it. Wouldn't a grand coalition feel the same. That same 'Whoah! Didn't see that coming!" It's hard to believe that the potential outcome of a general election could be just as sensational as a Yes vote but that is what we are facing at the moment. Scottish voters effectively booting the current Prime Minister out of 10 Downing Street. No UK Conservative governments for the next 10, 20 years. Assuming the number of SNP seats hovers around the 45 to 50 mark for years to come, the Conservatives would continue to require a phenomenally large number of seats in order to command a majority over a Lab/ SNP coalition seeing as a Con/ SNP coalition is never going to happen on Ms 'I'm old enough to remember Thatcher' Sturgeon's watch. That's an incredible turnaround considering the EVEL question posed by Cameron on the morning of the referendum result had everyone saying 'there are so many Scottish Labour MPs, they'll never form a government again. That's the end of Labour'. Now, only a few months later, the Conservatives could be facing the same fate. So, simple question (go easy on me for asking it because, as I said at the beginning, in September 2014 the establishment did what it had to do to protect itself): Conservative/ Labour Coalition - yes or no?
  4. Well done Utd!
  5. Scotty CTA: Incorrect, but I forgive your mistake given your simple view of the world. Heaven and Hell. God and Satan. Believers and non-believers. Celtic/Rangers fans and Non Celtic/ Rangers fans. Always one extreme or the other. The whiter than white pre or post cup final cries of "Come on Killie!" or "Well done the Saints!" sit awkwardly with the intolerance you display for basic human "failings". Some Celtic and Rangers fans (from the stands all the way to the boardroom) are bigots. They sing and act in an offensive and politically incorrect manner. Were these people born with those views? Of course not. My introduction to professional football in Scotland was as a ten year old. I got on the Celtic bus at the Auld Shank in Ballingry on the way to watch Premier League games at Celtic Park and stood on the old East terrace at Hampden to watch the Old Firm League Cup Final - all in the 1977-1978 season. Like some dark, football related, religious indoctrination process, environmental peer pressure dictated that you sing the same songs as your dad, your uncle, your older brother, your grandad. Are these people "bad" people? Of course not. These fans make up the club. Does that make the club a "bad" club? Of course not. To think otherwise - now that's a human failing. As always, education and the desire to change things are the key. How many hours a year do you spend on these boards taunting, being bitter, negative? What waste of a time - and this life. Thank God, you've a second one lined up.
  6. The tiresome.
  7. Confidence is a preference for the habitual tartan army message board member mistaking a Dunfermline fan for a Rangers one, who is known as.... Parklife!
  8. The board intellect has just called me a hagiographic. I'm scared to google that now.
  9. Surely if, in the next 50 years, you hate The Rangers for exactly the same reasons as Rangers, that must make them the same club. Oder? I say 50 years because they will be like a juggernaut when and not if they get themselves sorted out financially. They will still have the backing of 50,000 fans every week as well as countless others who care for their club just as much as you do for yours. But most importantly, the club will possess a new found will to win. An unwavering determination, brought about by the pain of the last 3 years, which will last generations. A "never forget" to add to the "no surrender". Nothing will have changed. Two Glasgow teams will continue to share the title between them for decades to come. Now there's a real reason to hate.
  10. Says the man in gold with 13,500 posts. Schmoke and a pancake?
  11. To all the residents of The Ivory Towers IFC 2012 (thplinth, Scotty CTA, Rossy and the rest - you know who you are), I'm also going to take the unfashionable step of defending Rangers. Let's say for a second, they are/ were guilty of running up debts of, for whatever reason, £80 million over a 25 year period from the start of the Souness revolution from 1986 to 2011. So what? Isn't any worse than teams like Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Hearts, Dunfermline etc getting into an average of £10 million debt over the same period of time - all with substantially smaller turnovers than Rangers. So, if these smaller clubs increased their debt by around £500,000 a year that means Rangers, who were balancing their books at the same debt to turnover as those aforementioned clubs, had an extra £2 million a year to play with. Hardly "financial doping" on a never before heard of scale, is it? What the Charles Green catheter did £2 million get you 25 years ago? One forgettable player including wages? One extra player but, and I'll say it again, even with the EBT fiasco Rangers £80 million debts were in no way any different to the debts being run up at other SPL teams during the same period. Debt to turnover ratio - both the same. Signed, Non-Rangers/ Celtic fan.
  12. Here's a favourite from the 80's. To think we thought we were getting served up sh*t back then after what the Lisbon Lions achieved. Turns out this was a Celtic team with a great chemistry and 10 (!) Scots. McGrain, Aitken, Burns, McStay, McLeod, Provan, McGarvey, McLair. Could have been the Scotland team back in the day and I say that not as a Celtic fan. Oh, and unlike today the commentary is understated and wonderful. Rip Arthur Montford and another week bit of my childhood.
  13. …either live in the stadium or on TV and were you born round about 1967? Well, it's just occurred to me that the chances are you're not a kick in the backside off being 50 years old and have never watched Scotland beat England at home. Mind blooooowwwwwn!!! Speaking personally, the 1976 win at Hampden was a year before I started getting into football. Defeats followed in 78, 80, 82 and then we drew in 1984. The 1985 game I missed as I played in a junior golf open somewhere in the west of Scotland where, just like at Hampden, it chucked it down the whole day. 1987 draw, 1989 defeat, 1999 defeat. I still can't believe it. Anyone else in the same boat and just a shocked and surprised at that thought??
  14. Can we add Alan Little to the list in spite of who his employer is O_O Article from earlier on today: But is that it - job done, union saved? No-one thinks that any more. Think of the heavy artillery that was pressed into service in defence of the Union in the last weeks of the campaign. Almost all the mainstream media were hostile to independence. The banks would move to London. The financial services industry would collapse. Mortgage payments would rise. Scotland would have to get in the queue behind Kosovo for EU membership. The oil was running out. There would be no pound in your pocket and the supermarkets would put their prices up. We love you Scotland, London politicians said, but if you vote "Yes" we will send armed guards to the border. And still 45% voted "Yes". I think the three main parties at Westminster should be worried about that.
  15. Was there anything done by the No campaign and media that was genuinely breaking any laws. I know the 45 feel incredibly hard done by regarding the TV and press bias, leaked government e-mails inviting banks, supermarkets and mobile companies to go public concerning their stance against independence and the last minute Devo-Max offer in the days leading up to the referendum. But...was there anything done which would stand up in court. Did BBC's coverage act in accordance with being a publicly funded organisation? Is there some way that it would be possible to get on record that the 45 WERE shafted in the last few days before the polls opened? Or was ultimately everything done above board and can just be put down to typical campaigning dirty tricks?